Trump administration separated families. Reuniting them is a giant mess.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...share-taxes/FntqKP7MKv31w0cFfILhbJ/story.html

google that and get a whole page of similar, I'm getting tired of posting them and I know Trumpists are never bothered by that little thing called Reality, since they all think it's a type of tv their hero starred on.

 

There are no 2nd generation guerrillas in Guatemala except in your imagination. The Kaibiles made sure of that years ago. Know what they are? No you don't.

 

It was as real as the rest of Trump's BS. The network gave him orders regarding who to fire.

 

BS Alex. They don't pay their way no matter what kind of liberal crap you try to shove down our throat. A birth will cost 10 to 15 thousand dollars. Do they pay that kind of taxes? Hell no. That's just the beginning. I'd be happier if they would just pick up their trash and use the port potties.

 

And the immigrants who came from Europe during that immigration did so LEGALLY. Such a false equivalency when the left tries the "well you ancestors were immigrants too" deflection.

 

Seriously, in order to make landlords responsible for the occupants of leased real property we'll need to change a few laws, upset centuries of common law and case law as well as mandate the wording in the contract or lease. We'd have to outlaw sublets. We'd have to require that all occupants pass the citizenship test and be named in the lease. We'd have to limit the time a guest could stay without the lessor checking on citizenship status. We'd have to compel the lessor to monitor occupancy on a monthly basis.

You'd have to require landlords or all lessors to register with the government and probably pass laws to hold them harmless for constant surveillance and grant them the power to enter the dwelling at anytime and ask for 'voter cards.'

Think it through Max. We would be adding an intrusive layer of administrative meddling into our homes. We're going to run head long into the bill of rights.

Let's leave the home alone.

 

Just like I said. Reality challenged

 

Don't necessarily have to, parents are taken into to custody for a variety of reasons, mere suspicion, probable cause and arrest and can't make bail, making sure the parent is the parent of a child in question, doesn't mean they are guilty.

So since it is so wrong and so inhumane and not we we should be doing as a country, as has been asserted by the left, should we cease doing so meaning we can hardly take into such custody and/or arrest someone who has a child.

 

Until we have a notional ID card which proves your citizenship there is only so much we can hold employers and landlords or anyone else accountable for. You know it's the left that doesn't even want you to have to ID yourself when you vote. I personally wouldn't object to having a national ID/Citizenship card and would be proud of since I happen to be proud of my US citizenship. I haven't been in a position to hire a possible illegal since the 1970's in Chicago at a light manufacturing plant where the work force was about half Mexican and Cuban and Puerto Ricans. Of course the PR's were American nationals anyway, the Mexicans and Cubans would present green cards or other docs, forget what they all were back then, that by all appearances were legit. Then after a few months they'd ask for a leave of absence and a few weeks later come back but present different papers and tell they are no longer Juan but Pedro now. What they did was apply then sneak over illegally and get fake doc's and then find a job and then when their notices came to the family back in Mexico the family would let them know and they'd do the little dance. What were we supposed to do. Of course there were not fancy cards with anti-fraud stuff back then just a piece or printed cardboard.

I think any employer who is knowingly and it is provable they were hiring illegals they should be charged including who they were getting around employment taxes and prosecuted. It'd be a lot better and easier to inforce with a national ID.

 

The IRA of 1921 and 1924 were a result of the most comprehensive study ever conducted on immigration, the Dillingham Commission Report to Congress, something like 42 volumes.

It took Congress over ten years to come up with an American immigration policy that actually worked and was best for America, American citizens and not what was best for the immigrant or one political party.

From 1900 until 1965 it was progressives who wrote America's immigration laws and policies.

To understand how America's immigration laws are suppose to be and who made good immigrants and who weren't good immigrants you have to read the entire report.

Start reading the report here:
https://archive.org/search.php?quer...s.+Immigration+Commission+(1907-1910)"&page=3

 

You're the only one reality challenged Alex. We don't need any more of them. BTW the ones you're importing were the commies. They would be perfect for you to bring home. Can I count on you for six or seven. That will probably become 10 or 12 within a couple of years.

 

Everyone who came did so legally because there were virtually no laws regarding immigration until 1924. This country was built on Open Borders and it made us the greatest nation in the world. I think we should Make America Great Again

 

You are either misconstruing, misunderstanding or misreading what I'm proposing.

Let's begin again:
1) Make Voter ID the law of the land. That requires a Federal law.
2) Require all employers, renters, real estate agents, etc verify legal residency. Presenting a Voter ID is easy and relatively cheap, but they could also run background checks, E-verify, and other methods. Afterall, we require such a thing for every store selling a .22 single-shot rifle, why not help eliminate the illegal immigration problem with this?

 

ROFLMAO. Are you seriously suggesting that the rightful owners of the lands the Euro invaders "colonized" didn't object? What is the basis of your sense of right and wrong?

 

The Republicans called for impeachment. It was a sudden influx that we were not prepared for. The current issue is young kids and was deliberately caused by Trump.

 

I'm saying lands have changed hands around the world since we formed tribes. Especially more advanced civilizations overtaking less advanced. I'm saying there was wide open in the American continent when Europeans began to settle and form colonies where they were not immigrants they were citizens of the nation to which the colony belonged.

Are you saying you want and it would be better if we just let Mexico invade and turn us into Mexico

 

No more than Obama was responsible for the huge increase in unaccompanied minors and we have 5 times as many of those. Who was responsible for catch and release which tempted more families to try and get in.

 

I think we need a Congressional investigation to get DHS and HHS to come clean.

 

42 volumes of racist claptrap? No thanks just the same. I have better things to do, like watching my grass grow and downloading naked ladies.

You do realize that the real theory of Naziism was founded in the United States? It was all the rage in the Universities from about 1900 to 1920. Then it was discredited until the Nazis came to power without any intellectual wherewithal to back up their "volkishness" and seized on it

 

Evidently ICE does not keep a paper trail on which child was arrested with which parent.They have created a diabolical MESS!!They now have to try resorting to DNA testing to try to match parents with children...….how much is that going to cost taxpayers???

 

I get it max, I just disagree as it relates to real property leasing or really anything beyond employment and even there I have concerns.

I can reluctantly see the compelling state interest involved with employment. The state has an interest in protecting work opportunities for it's citizens and insuring that those working in the country are correctly identified so taxes can be either withheld or properly accounted to a verified taxpayer.

The employer employee relationship is one on one, the employer is responsible for memorializing no one else's citizenship or work eligibility status but the employee's. It starts and ends with the I-9. The employer records the information provided by the employee from a list of acceptable documents onto the I-9 and stores a copy for three years. It's not the employer's responsibility to determine legal eligibility or to verify the validity of the documents beyond the likeness in a photo ID or expiration dates. It's up to government authorities to audit the I-9.

Simple enough, right? Changing the I-9 to require a 'voters registration' card for the identity side of the I-9 instead of allowing it in place of a federal, state or locally issued ID as it does now would be simple as well.

Where the simplicity ends is firstly, with the attendant rules, regulations and civil as well as criminal penalties for error, discrimination or misuse. https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/penalties This is heavy stuff for a grandmother just renting out the mother-in-law quarters around back of her home. Secondly, as it relates to landlords, the verification isn't limited to just a single lessee as with the employer employee relationship but to every occupant, all future sublets, relatives or guest that may inhabit a dwelling now or in the future. Are we going to hold the landlord responsible for 'strawman lease' where a qualified lessee leases the home but never really moves in? Will the landlord be responsible if a non-qualified relative moves in? Will the landlord be responsible if the tenant sublets the dwelling to an illegal alien?

Frankly I think it's an insane proposition that is easily defeated because it's too damn hard for a landlord to monitor and fraught with avenues inviting the federal government into our homes through administrative rule without warrant or cause. I don't like it!

See where you went here Max? You started with a modest proposal to change the I-9 to require a new "voter registration card" and then you promptly wanted to radically expand its use to the home. Right out of the gate you confirm my fears, the program will expand.

I vote no.

 

It was called the Progressive Era or Movement. It only differs from the Democratic platform of today by the removal of eugenics from its public thought. Privately, it's all still there in its elitist glory!

 

That’s a good article right there.

 

Well you being a self admitted Liberal, the whole leftist thing isn't really your concern

 

And above all make America poor and a third world crap hole.