Is it me or are liberals now routinely anti Christian and anti Semitic?

yes but by todays Democratic anti military standards the administration then was Republican

 

Trump shirts:






Trump Tie – made in China








Donald Chump says Mexico is "stealing our jobs" - but,

 

you know there is liberal around when you see pictures and cartoons. To a liberal dueling pictures is debating.

 

That's our own choice--our decision, not France's. Even our military publicly announced they didn't want that much spending, but that extremist Republican Congress spent it anyway. France hasn't shirked her responsibility here, and doesn't deserve your harsh judgment. And, we don't deserve that much credit.

 

Entry into WWII was opposed by Gerald Ford, Lindbergh and a whole bunch of top businessmen who were members of the America First Committee. The America First Committee strongly opposed Roosevelt and American Jews and pitched the war as an effort to defeat Germany (rather than protect England).

I think your post is a partisan grab for credit that is not due.

 

Those pictures poke some pretty big holes in you crazy claims.

 

lol ~ as we proved previously, Obama increased the military budget


when will forum Republicans ever post the truth on this forum??

 

Yup. As always, forum Republicans LOSE again in these debates.

 

The way you twist and substitute facts makes for a very confusing dialogue based on history.

 

They could well be uncomfortable with Dem lies as well. Why is it so difficult for you to understand that some people are uncomfortable with someone that lies on a regular basis - sitting in the chair of the President ?

Republicans also say they are "Patriotic" when they hate the basic principle of America. What does this have to do with you not being able to figure out that someone might be uncomfortable with a liar ?

You deflection and denial speaks volumes .. and then you turn around and call others ignorant. Perhaps you should take log out of own eye before trying to pick the speck out of another's eye.

 

Wrong. No wonder your statements sound so foolish. You do not know the basic principles on which this nation was founded.

I realize that this is not all your fault - 12 years of school and a kid is not taught the basic principles on which this nation was founded.

Regardless - if you do not know what the basic principles on which this nation was founded are - then perhaps you should not pretend otherwise.

Do you understand ? 1+1 = 2

 

Trump may have been registered as a Democrat, but he was not a Democrat. He was not a Republican either. He was a businessman who did what many businessmen do, he played the game, he cozied up to and paid whoever he needed to pay in order to advance his business and his ego.

Very few people believe Trump has any true political convictions. I certainly do not believe he is a heartfelt conservative.

But he has picked a side and is playing the game and getting the right results, and that's all I care about.

To think Trump is dumb and illiterate is extremely naïve. He can be rude and crude, has questionable morals, but is not dumb and illiterate. Hilary, Obama, Bush 43, Bill Clinton, Reagan, Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Castro, and every other person who has risen to the top of the political scene are very intelligent.

Regardless of their politics, in almost every case, the person who rises to the top and leads a nation/empire is very smart and has exceptional skills relevant to the task of leadership.

Nope. No individual really believes Trump, Bernie, Hilary, Bush, Clinton, cares about him as an individual. They are politicians, they don't honestly care.

I did not vote for Trump because I thought he cared or was colorful or more exciting. I did not vote for Trump in the primary, he was not my first choice. But Trump won the primaries, and he was infinitely better than Hilary. So I voted for Trump.

But now I support him and will vote for him in 2020 because he is doing what I want to be done.

True. They were conceited, filled with hubris, and grossly underestimated Trump. They thought he was dumb and illiterate. And they put all their hopes on Hilary, the most despicable and dishonest person ever to run for President.

 

LOL .. good one. Understand that the prognostications you are responding to are from the same fellow that claimed that Luther taught "billions" about respect for individual liberty.

From Luther's famous book - "On the Jews and their lies"

"In the treatise, he argues that Jewish synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes burned, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness,[2] afforded no legal protection,[3] and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time.[4] He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "We are at fault in not slaying them"

 

I will explain this very simple and obvious fact to you.

The Republican RINO "democrat lite" establishment controls the electoral process, and they control it with the aim of maintaining their power and control. That makes the process of getting on the ballot and then winning the primary a very high hurdle for the outsider (conservative).

But once it gets to the national stage where its the R versus the D, the R is always better than the D, and conservatives vote for the R even if the R stands for RINO.

Got it or do you need more hand holding? If you need more handholding, ask someone else because in that case you are too slow to be worth any more time.

 

It is you that can not seem to figure out what logical fallacy is. Your post contains a number of them.

1) "R is always better than D" This a naked claim - a claim without support - an "assumed premise" fallacy.
2) Even if it was true that R is better than D .. this does not necessarily justify not voting for a third option when available.
3) You post assumes that people must always vote for the party rather than the person ... it is quite possible - and in fact happens often - that a person running as Blue has more respect for the founding principles and "Republicanism" than the RINO running as Red.

There are other fallacies in your post but .. after 3 rather obvious ones - clearly it is you is the slow one who needs hand holding.

Quit transferring your flaws on to me por favor

 

what kind of asinine rebuttal is that? Oh right never mind.

 

Liberals are trying to eradicate any vestige of traditional America, and what is more "traditional America" than Christianity?

Traditional values block the advancement of socialism.

 

Wrong. Totally wrong.

To a conservative, R is always better than D. The 2 parties operate as a group, individual politicians are largely irrelevant.

A third party is a waste of your vote. No current 3rd party will win a national office.

No "progressive" has any respect for the Constitution. That's inherent in "progressivism".

You LOSE. You FAIL. You are a waste of time.

 

The most recent thread started by a Democrat and cheered by Democrats actively wanting to eliminate Christian and all religions was yesterday.

A person only has to read this forum to see why EVERY Christian should vote straight Republican for every office in every election.

 

Its not a rebuttal, a rebuttal is a presentation of evidence to counter contrary evidence. You presented no evidence. Your first post was simple BS, it was wildly biased opinion devoid of substance. It requires no rebuttal.

Its an example of the collapse of the forum. More and more there is no rational discourse regarding politics, most on the "left" just repeat past blathering, others are so consumed by Trump Derangement Syndrome they are worthless.

 

Twirling around in a circle crying out, "YOU LOSE, YOU FAIL", is not an argument for much.

Neither is your continued assumed Premise fallacy. You have not proven that a third party vote is a waste of a vote - nor is this claim true.

You do not speak for all conservatives ... and given you have no respect for "Republicanism" or the principles on which this nation was founded which makes you a RINO. Why should any real Republicans - like myself - listen to your nonsense ... telling us how and what to think and who to vote for.

Nor do you speak for all progressives - more fallacious nonsense. Like you - progressives like the parts of the Constitution they agree with - like you however, they generally have little respect for the principles on which this nation was founded and want to force their personal beliefs on others through physical violence (Law).

You use a dumb label that you do not understand ... do explain for us the factors within "progressivism" that show that these adherents have no respect for any of the constitution. You probably do not even know what progressivism is .. I don't - like all nonsense labels - progressivism likely means different things to different people.

If you like I can explain to you how liberals like to stomp on the the founding principles because it is highly unlikely that you can do so in a coherent manner - (some explanation that does not involve a whole bunch of fallacious gibberish).

 

you should care about far more. Trump is an illiterate who does not know what conservatism is and thus is not able to persuade anyone to be conservative or libertarian

 

Is it really a skill in a mobocracy to call Jeb Bush "low energy" and thereby crush his entire candidacy? It's a skill he acquired on the playground in elementary school and never lost because he never grew up

 

simple, the founding principle was, freedom from central govt. The liberal principle is, the less freedom from central govt the better.

 

progressive believe in childlike magical central govt solutions,( eg free college to solve the problem of expensive college) while conservatives believe in freedom. Now do you understand?