Sheriff called parking spot shooting legal under ‘stand your ground’ laws. Prosecutors disagreed.

Self defense, not "stand your ground" will probably get the old timer off.
He was not "standing his ground" he was knocked down on the ground and vulnerable when he shot the thug.

 

The chicken **** was nowhere near vulnerable as we can all see the bully start to back away

 

Definitely not "stand your ground" but a stupid encounter for both

 

Or people could just obey the law and stop parking in handicap spots.

 

Ahhh so you believe retribution against later generations should be legal?

 

The bully was wrong to park there no doubt. But it's not chicken ***** job or business to police everyone, correct?

 

What's wrong with telling someone they shouldn't park in a handicap spot?

 

From all accounts he wasn't just "telling" her. He was yelling.

 

now black guy knows not to shove people just cause someone uses mean language.

i dont support the shooting, but mother ****ers need to learn to keep their hands to themselves

 

And?

 

You are the one who is defending the criminal, who has a RECORD of threatening folks and pointing a gun at kids.

 

Only one had a criminal record and that was the shover, and no one pointed a gun at kids, but keep making the fish bigger.

 

So all of these folks are just lying on Good Ole Drejka.

 

I haven't defended anyone and have clearly said with what is on the video were I on the jury he'd be doing jail time so don't try to fallaciously claim otherwise. YOU are the one defending a criminal as usual.

How about this guy you going to defend him too?

Arizona father beats, kills man who followed his daughter into bathroom stall, police say

An Arizona father decided to “take care of a situation” his own way when he killed a man who attempted to enter a bathroom stall his daughter was in, police said.

Melvin Harris III faces a second-degree murder charge in the beating death of Leon Leevon Armstrong, AZFamily.com reported on Tuesday. Harris was taken into custody earlier this month after the deadly encounter at a QuikTrip convenience store in Phoenix involving his 16-year-old daughter.

An Arizona father decided to “take care of a situation” his own way when he killed a man who attempted to enter a bathroom stall his daughter was in, police said.

Melvin Harris III faces a second-degree murder charge in the beating death of Leon Leevon Armstrong, AZFamily.com reported on Tuesday. Harris was taken into custody earlier this month after the deadly encounter at a QuikTrip convenience store in Phoenix involving his 16-year-old daughter.

The 40-year-old was waiting in the parking lot to pick up his daughter and two friends when Armstrong approached him asking for money. Harris gave him some change and Armstrong went into the store.


Harris’ daughter came out of the store and told her father that a man tried to enter her bathroom stall by violently shaking the door, police said. She said she told the employees who alerted the security guard.

She then identified Armstrong as the alleged harasser when she spotted him walking out of the store.

Possibly thinking not enough was being done, Harris approached the security guard and told him to “take care of the situation, or he would do it himself.” The guard said the incident was being handled.

The protective father, however, confronted Armstrong about the incident and then attacked him, authorities said. Witnesses told police Harris repeatedly stomped, punched and kicked the man.

Harris fled the scene. Armstrong was taken to the hospital where he later died. He suffered brain swelling, a nasal fracture and loss of oxygen.......
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/1...news%2Fnational+(Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text)

 

How am I defending a criminal, please explain your usual bullshit babble.

 

No, they could all be true and he still wouldn't have a criminal record.

If he had a criminal record, he wouldn't have a concealed carry license.

Is it possible that someone is lying about him? Sure. It's possible. I don't know if it's true or not.

If it is true, I'd like to know why no one pressed charges though. They should have.

The other guy who did the shoving DID have charges pressed for aggravated assault. Those charges were apparently dropped for some reason.

 

Exactly why I said you need to hear from witnesses the sort of testimony that doesn't always make the papers to be sure.

If you have to say "COULD" then its not per se a threat. It CAN BE, that doesn't mean it always is. COULD BE a threat is not the standard. Reasonably believed, imminent/ongoing threat.

 

a "rap" in "rap sheet" refers to charges i.e. "you can beat the rap, you can't beat the ride" i.e. You can beat the charges but you're going to jail right now.

 

Yes but the threat already established itself when he attacked him.

We're not talking about a potential threat, we're talking about the furtherance of a threat that has already been established.

 

Justifying the battery McGlocken engaged in and how you tough guy would do the same if someone was arguing with your wife.

 

The threat of injury would be being pushed to the ground. Once that's over you're not in further danger unless the threat is ON GOING.
If the guy advances on you, that's a good indicator that its on going and the shoot is good. If the guy just stands there its sort of hard to say you're still under an ongoing threat. You've pulled the piece and they've stopped. You don't get to shoot unless they try to start again.
As discussed, just standing there is not per se trying to start again. It can be construed that way with additional facts (like **** talk) but we don't have the sort of additional facts present that allow one to say, from the hip, justified.

Ask yourself: After the initial shove, what was done in furtherance of the threat of harm? Did the assailant step forward? Did he make a rude gesture? Did he insinuate that the man on the ground's parents were unwed when they copulated him into being? Did he pick his nose?
State the facts which occur after the shove you use to say "on going threat".

 

The only possible defenses I can see.
Accidentally pulled the trigger but then that could be charged as an involuntary manslaughter
or he heard McGlockton say something like let me get my gun out or to his girl friend hand me my weapon or something like that but even then he'd have to make some move with it if he got it.

 

You have zero knowledge of what Drejka said. In the video he appeared calm - up until attacked by the thug.

It appears that your one witness followed McGlockton out of the store to join in the beat down -- so what kind of a witness does he make? Who else claims to have heard cursing and yelling?

That being said, from what you are saying, if (for example) a black man cursed at my wife I would be justified in launching a violent attack against him without warning? Notice I interject race into this example because most of your comments seem to be totally focused on race.

 

He did advance, and he stayed within 10 feet the entire time.

If someone attacks you and stops once you present a weapon, that does NOT mean they are no longer a threat, and have already established they ARE a threat were it not for the weapon causing pause.

We are talking, quite literally, about FOUR seconds of time between when the gun says "omg hi" and "bang".

Yes, he did step forward, until he saw the gun.

 

Talking **** could qualify depending on what he said. "Put that gun down and I'm going to **** you up" would count I think. That would show he's continuing the altercation and is simply waiting for an opportunity to strike