Florida armed bystander stops gunman at crowded back-to-school event at park

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    You go source where I said this.

    You go source this as well.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  3. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now I hear-tell that the country with the most violent crime and murder caused by gun-totin' population is them thar United States of America. But they is many people sayin' that it ain't no gun that ever done killed nobody 'n that it's them people who gots the gun in they's hand who do the killin'. So it seems to me pretty darn obvious that y'all gots to chose .... either ban the gun or ban the mercans. :toilet: :tombstone:
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I say we ban foreign Nationals that no nuthin' of what they're talkin' about concerning our affairs. I live in a mountainous rural area where most of my neighbors are just part timers. I awoke at 2 a. m. to hearing my dogs in a low guttural growl. My wife was sound asleep but soon to be awakened. Went down the stairs with my German P-38 in hand ( a souvenier from my fathers experience in WWII). As I rounded the corner, I saw two young men through the half light door illuminated by the moon. They were getting ready to kick in my front door, like they had already done to several unoccupied houses already. I had them on the ground in a flash at the point of my gun. Who knows what might have happened had they entered and my wife along with myself pleading for their mercy while we awaited for "thingamabob" to arrive from Scandanavia or whatever god forsaken corner of the world to save us with his superior wisdom. It is the gunowners, like myself that take personal responsibility to defend ourselves and family at any given moment from thugs whether armed with weapons or just superior physical force. We do not commit crimes and have no police record. We are very unlikely to be disarmed by elitist foreigners that look down their snooty noses at us as they make fun of regional differences.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps this is the "non-violent" non-gun culture from where you hail.....you can have it. They won't be torching my vehicle!
     
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    Which does not prove anything.

    Meaning it is simply not possible for yourself to present a coherent argument.

    The point must be demonstrated by yourself. The constant touting of other countries and their strict firearm-related restrictions and lower numbers of firearm-related incidents compared to the united states, what difference does it make? Unless the United Kingdom was a bloodbath that would put the nation of Mexico to shame prior to their total handgun prohibition, there is no actually point to be raised by yourself in this particular matter. Either show that other countries were more violent and had more deaths than the united states, or stop making faulty comparisons between nations that are in no way similar to one another.

    Was every legally owned fully-automatic firearm confiscated and destroyed, thus removing them from existence?

    If not, there is no ban on fully-automatic firearms, and thus no point being raised by yourself.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The bigger the gun ..... the smaller the penis. :laughing:
     
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    So if you don't have a gun you don't have a penis. I believe you. Just squat like a woman, you'll be fine.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that you've revealed your fixation, I'll refer you to "Tracker Sam because what he said is quite revealing.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Will you be advancing your knowledge of the world by comparing colour TV's per capita now? I'm sure that you can make all sorts of conclusions based upon that. :laughing:
     
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    ... the best he can do.
     
  14. notme

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    It proves a clear link between lenient gun laws in a country, and the amount of gun related violence.

    Meaning, you complain that with strict gun laws you can't buy guns and so violates the 2nd amendment,
    While Australia proves you wrong. Must be short circuiting your mind.

    It makes a difference in human lives who get saved, and making the country saver as a whole. How on earth do you not understand this? It is as if you now deny the US is the most violent western country there is.

    Negative. You claim this is important. So you go prove why it is and that it indeed was the case to begin with.

    You can still make the law that semi automatic weapons may not be produced and sold to the public, just like they did with automatic weapons.
     
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    yes.....says a man who references the thoughts of George Soros!:applause:
     
  16. Thingamabob

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    Who's George Soros? :chainsaw:
     
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    A link that is proven to be factually incorrect when one looks at the nation of Mexico, or any other nation with both strict firearm-related restrictions, and levels of firearm-related violence that dwarf the united states, and make it look like the nation of Japan in comparison.

    It is yourself who does not understand that what is being claimed does not line up with precedent established by the united state supreme court.

    There is no evidence, none whatsoever, that any lives have ever actually been "saved" from firearm-related restrictions. However there is evidence that firearm-related restrictions have gotten innocent individuals murdered by leaving them unarmed and unable to arm themselves in a timely manner.

    If other countries have always had lower levels of firearm-related incidents than the united states, even long before they made any changes to the firearm-related restrictions, then there is no legitimate comparison to be had. It is that simple.

    Except for the fact that such cannot be done in the wake of the Heller, McDonald, and recently the Caetano rulings, all of which state that the second amendment applies to all firearms that are in common use. And since semi-automatic firearms are the most common and widespread firearms in the united states, there is no legal standard under which their ownership can actually be prohibited from the general public.
     
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    I already sourced that Mexico is suffering from gun related violence due to the US lack of gun rules.
    I also noted its fair to compare the US with other western modern countries,.. and not some country like Syria.
    Complaint denied.

    I seriously do not recall that tougher gun laws can not be made due to the 2nd amendment.
    Complaint denied.

    I already sourced that the US has far more gun related incidents.
    Complaint denied.

    I am not seeing a single source about this.

    Doesn't count for full automatic.
     
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    Because the legal standard is that firearms "in common use for legal purposes" cannot be banned. This describes semi-autos perfectly, as they are by far the most common weapon that meets that description.
     
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    I can't get my head around how you guys talk about deadly weapons as if you're discussing model cars. lol
     
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    I dunno why, when it doesn't apply to new automatic weapons.
     
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    What....don't tell me you don't read your own cut and pastes? If you don't know who George Soros is, then you have no idea what is going on in the world stage.
     
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    Inanimate objects. Not much to it.
     
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    And the constitution protects all bearable arms with the same veracity; to ban any of them, under any of the standards of scrutiny the Court has applied to enumerated constitutional rights, fails constitutional muster.
     
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    Where do the drug cartels acquire the hand grenades, rocket propelled grenades, anti-aircraft artillery, and fully-automatic firearms, all of which are not sold in the united states?

    See the district of columbia and the city of Chicago for reference.

    None of which actually means anything.

    They are the sources utilized by yourself.

    Semi-automatic firearms and fully-automatic firearms are not the same thing. Do not attempt to pull a compare and contrast substitution on this matter, it will not work.
     

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