One in four troops sees white nationalism in the ranks

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  1. superbadbrutha

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    Black soldiers were treated worse than many German POWs during WWII and came back home to Jim Crow segregation after serving their country.
     
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    What is amazing is how someone who has never served could refute would people who have served are saying about their experiences when it comes to the Klan in the service.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a common term used by white supremacists against those who are not considered white. How old are you? I'm guessing under 30 (hedging my bet) but probably under 25.
     
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    If it said "no signs of white nationalism in the military" I'm guessing you'd never have a problem with the numbers.

    Despite the comments of our far Right Wing extremists, as proved earlier, the Military Times is a right wing publication. Even the Stars & Stripes is more centered.
     
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    Well we did give them airplanes to fly.........and Emmitt Till’s daddy had enough freedom to roam around the Italian countryside murdering and raping Italian women..........so much for ‘liberating’ Europe........
     
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    You ain't gave nobody **** and it's just par for the course for the racist babble.
     
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    You can quibble about the other stuff but the sample size is fine. In fact virtually all polls fall within the 1000-2000 range and that is overkill.
     
  8. Max Rockatansky

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    Racism, or more accurately bigotry, has always existed in every group of people, some more than others. That's not the problem. The is when the bigots organize and act in direct opposition to the goals of, in this case, the US military. It doesn't matter if the group is white nationalists, the Muslim Brotherhood or any other group that oppose the US Constitution, it's dangerous to the integrity of those who've sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution and must be rooted out.
     
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    Are you saying you were unaffected by your experience in the military? It was life changing for me. And it did make changes within me.

    I see you declined to answer my simple question to you, is it safe to say that you do believe that the military is full of white supremacists?
     
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    Agreed about the civilian world and about the camaraderie of the Marine Corps. That said, in my service career, I've seen a few race-based incidents.
    Usually alcohol was involved. [​IMG]
     
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    1) You weren't the first according to a search. That'd be ecco: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-one-day-record.488603/page-6#post-1066926449

    2) It's interesting to see you use a reference as a counter-argument then run away from it when it's used against you. What do you call someone who does that?
     
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    25% of our military as white nationalists is a problematic claim considering by all accounts actual white nationalists in general are fairly rare.
    Sorry I couldn't help you out.
     
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    American black soldiers in the European theatre of war had a penis problem with white women.

    So they went to the gallows and were hanged by the neck until they were dead.

    If you can't do the time...don't do the crime.

    FYI:
    There's a dirty little secret on the "Rock" (Okinawa) and nothing has changed in 73 years.

    But I digress.

    excerpts:
     
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    Doubtful since the Military Times is a right wing publication. As the poll notes, the service personnel were asked about white nationalism. Unless you are claiming our service personnel are all LWers or just plain stupid, then it's best to accept the data. BTW, it's not "one in four" is a white nationalist. Try reading the article again for a better understanding of the facts.

    I do like the graphic, however. It fits with all the data I've seen....and explains why the LWers hate the South as much as they hate the military.
     
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    That's not what the article says. Are you deliberately misrepresenting the article? That'd be dishonest. Or did you not read it?
     
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    The article says one in four polled said they found evidence of white nationalists in the military. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    Sounds like a minimum of 25% of our forces to me if one out of four observers can point to alt right troops.

    Maybe everyone who polled positively for white nationalists are all talking about the same couple of guys? What do you think?
     
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    I see the problem here. Good luck with your career.
     
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    White Nationalism = bad
    Brown/black/yellow Nationalism = good

    Got it!

    Gang Activity in the U.S. Military
     
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    Exactly.......black/Brown/yellow pride good.......White pride evil and racist.
     
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    I posted the mediabiasfact check link not as an argument but just because someone mentioned "Stars and Stripes."

    Before the internet and when serving in the U.S. military usually in some shithole country "Stars and Stripes"was your only source for the news along with "Armed Forces Radio." How many Vietnam vets remember their small transistor radio wrapped in electrical tape to protect it from the elements ?

    My first exposure to "Stars and Stripes" was in 69 in Vietnam.

    I always looked at "Stars and Stripes" as being a military propaganda rag.

    The problem with "Stars and Stripes" is the censorship and the "Stars and Stripes" was doing a whole lot of censorship when Obama was in the White House.
    "Stars and Stripes" office is located in the Pentagon that is run by civilians.

    When my sister would send me the Sunday "L.A. Times" in the mail by the time it reached me it was a month old but I was the most popular Marine on the hill.

    Military Times...actually "Army Times," "Navy Times." "Marine Corps Times" and "Air Force Times" is read by military families.
    Those in combat arms really don't have the time to indulge in this military rag.

    I subscribed to "Marine Corps Times" during the 70's and 80's just to keep up with what was going on in the crotch.

    Military Times have been conducting polls for a couple of decades now and they went as far to break down how the troops were polled by breaking it down by branch of service, age, pay grade, race and ethnicity and gender.

    Who voted for Obama in 2008 ? mostly E-1's to E-3's, blacks, Hispanics and women.
    Sailors, then airmen then soldiers and Marines coming in last.

    Military Times was threatened by the Obama White House to stop revealing how the troops voted by pay grade, race and gender.

    Two questions that are asked during the annual polling is...
    ***** approval rating as President of the United States ?
    ***** approval rating as Commander in Chief ?

    To put it this way, Obama had the lowest approval rating as CnC in history.
     
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    Might as well bring it out into the open.
     
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    There is that. :/
     
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    Fake News. President Trump thinks you are the enemy of the people. Are you or are you just trying to be funny posting a false claim?

    [​IMG]

    THanks for the link and confirming the existence of white surpremacist groups. Yes, root them all out regardless of race or religion.

    https://www.thebalancecareers.com/gang-activity-in-the-u-s-military-3354199
    Members of nearly every major street gang, including the Bloods, Crips, Black Disciples, Gangster Disciples, Hells Angels, Latin Kings, The 18th Street Gang, Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Mexican Mafia, Nortenos, Surenos, Vice Lords, and various white supremacist groups, have been documented on military installations.
     
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    Wrong again but I can see why you want to believe that is true.

    Sane and sensible Americans see all racism is evil. Only racists see it as something to be proud about.
     
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    Think of it this way. Say you poll a Company consisting of 4 platoons of 25 guys each. One platoon has an outspoken, hood wearing, cross burning klan member and that entire platoon can point at him in response to observing white supremacist behavior. That works out to 1 in 4 members of that Company seeing white supremacy in the ranks, and then you come along and say out of the 100 guys in the company 25 of them are white supremacists.

    Better?
     
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