One in four troops sees white nationalism in the ranks

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some men have neither.
     
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    Yep
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a bullshit hate-filled conspiracy theory passed around by those on the bottom of the low IQ, low education and low self-esteem subset of human society.

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    IMO, all racists and bigots, regardless of race, gender, religion or any other factor, have common elements:
    Low IQ
    Low education
    Low paying dead-end jobs
    An expectation that the world owes them something.

    You are correct, they are desperate to be portrayed as victims since this allows them to blame others for their own life failures.
     
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    You didn't see the part about women not having spines?
     
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    So just to be clear, you agree with this judge in demeaning a girl's fear of black men as a result of a home invasion? Maybe she expects too much? You don't believe for a minute that a distrust of minorities could be the result of a violent interaction with them? The fearful person just has to be stupid? Low IQ?

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ams-victims-for-tots-black-men-fear/25604929/

    LOUISVILLE — Jordan and Tommy Gray's 3-year-old daughter was watching SpongeBob Squarepants when two armed men broke into their home near Buechel on March 21, 2013, and robbed them at gunpoint.

    Two years later, when one of the offenders was about to be sentenced, Jordan wrote in a victim impact statement that her daughter was still "in constant fear of black men." Both robbers were African-American.

    "Whenever we are running errands, if we come across a black male, she holds me tight and begs me to leave," the mother said. "It has affected her friendships at school and our relationships with African-American friends."

    Tommy Gray also wrote that since the crime, his daughter had been terrified of black males and that probation was not sufficient punishment for Gregory Wallace, 27, who had pleaded guilty to robbery.

    "If holding a little girl at gunpoint gets you probation, then our system is flawed," Gray said.
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    Well history shows that isn't true. These folks have been Police Chiefs, Sheriffs, DAs, Congressmen, etc.
     
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    Is true, is true...
     
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    And Democrats don't forget they were Democrats when they fought to keep slavery, they were Democrats when they formed the KKK and they were democrats when they didn't support civil rights with the same veracity as the Republicans.
     
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    Yep also remember they were conservatives.
     
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    Thing is BLM you are only repeating this process again.

    KKK is a dying movement BLM is the new KKK they just flipped the colour.
     
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    False.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Straw man arguments are a sign of weakness, son.

    Unlike you, I'm not dumping in my pants about "African-Americans". OTOH, anyone, regardless of skin-tone or gender, who comes busting into my house is going to be shot. No, I will not take time to ask them their religion or nationality either. I won't give a damn what language they speak.
     
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    And a few Presidents of the United States. Woodrow Wilson, perhaps the most highly educated and intelligent man to be POTUS was throughly racist.

    But if others want to believe differently, I don't mind. It never hurts to be underestimated by the enemy.
     
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    Exceptions to the rule. There are always a few Alpha males to lead the masses of Beta males. They might be doing it for the power, not directly out of bigotry.

    Note in the article below that, while more educated and/or intelligent people are less bigoted, they may also not do much to stop it. Also, there's the self-esteem factor. It may sound odd, but even rich and famous people can have low self-esteem. Trump is notoriously thin-skinned, which is indicative of a person with low self-esteem.

    https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Socie...-relationship-between-intelligence-and-racism
    people who score higher on intelligence tests are less likely to hold racist stereotypes (such as imagining that people of another race are lazy or unintelligent)...
    ...."Prejudice involves what we believe to be true, affective feelings [like] likes and dislikes," and instinctive needs, whereby "some people 'need' to be prejudiced [because] they feel so bad about themselves it makes them feel better to hate others," Prof. Brown explains. "So, better educated or 'smart' people may know facts but may still not like people who are different."....

    ....He found that the group that scored higher on the test were less likely to hold racist beliefs than their lower-performing counterparts. For example, among those who did well on the verbal test, 29 percent said blacks were lazy and 13 percent said they were unintelligent. By contrast, among those who performed poorly on the intelligence test, 46 percent described blacks as lazy and 23 described them as unintelligent.

    Lower scoring test-takers were also more likely to disapprove of intermarriage, and not want a black family living next door.

    Overall, those who scored better on the test had more favorable opinions of blacks and were less likely to blame them for their disadvantages than did their lower-performing respondents.....

    A more indepth article with some surprising conclusions:
    https://www.livescience.com/55966-people-of-all-cognitive-abilities-hold-prejudice.html
    There's a long-standing and somewhat uncomfortable finding in psychology: that low IQ, conservative social beliefs and prejudice — including anti-gay attitudes and racism — are all linked. Many studies have found this relationship — so much so that a 2015 meta-analysis of the research suggested that researchers who conduct studies of people's ideology and prejudice should take participants' cognitive ability into account.

    New research, though, suggests that there's more to the story. When the definition of prejudice is expanded beyond its usual meaning — that is, holding negative attitudes toward historically powerless minority groups— it turns out that people all along the IQ spectrum show prejudiced attitudes.

    In other words, intelligence doesn't determine if you're prejudiced, but rather the target of that prejudice, the study found. Both the smart and the dumb have biases, but those biases are toward different groups of people, according to the new study, published in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science. [Fight, Fight, Fight: The History of Human Aggression]


























    People in the study with lower intellectual abilities tended to dislike minorities they perceived as liberal. People higher on the IQ scale exhibited more prejudice toward conservative groups such as religious fundamentalists.

    "Because our study finds this on both ends of the cognitive ability continuum, it suggests this isn't just something that's unique to people with low cognitive ability," said Mark Brandt, a psychologist at Tilburg University in the Netherlands, who conducted the research along with Jarret Crawford, a psychologist at The College of New Jersey. "The simplest explanation for this result is that both people with high and low cognitive ability seem to express prejudice towards people they disagree with."

    Prejudice and IQ
    It's nearly impossible not to moralize about prejudice. Psychology, as a whole, has typically devoted its study of bias to researching the biases against low-power groups in a society: gays, minorities, immigrants, women. Some researchers argue that political bias in psychology influences the types of studies that are done. Still, prejudice against low-power groups has been shown to cause harm, and thus attracts researchers' interest.

    And the results have been quite consistent: Low IQ, measured in many different ways, is associated with right-wing social ideology and prejudice, according to the 2015 meta-analysis of studies published in the European Journal of Personality. (These results are for social conservatism particularly, not for fiscal or economic conservatism.)

    In their new study, Brandt and Crawford wanted to remove all value judgments from the study of prejudice and instead focus on the psychological process behind negative bias. They defined prejudice as negative evaluations of a person based on the group they're in, no matter whether that group generally had a low or high status in society.

    "We need to understand prejudice against high-status and low-status groups to understand how the social order is maintained and how people might challenge it," Brandt said. [Understanding the 10 Most Destructive Human Behaviors]

    The researchers pulled data from the 2012 American National Election Studies survey, a representative survey of American voters conducted by researchers at Stanford University and the University of Michigan, to look at the prejudices that participants may have held. In the survey, participants were asked to rate their feelings toward 24 different groups. The survey also gauged participants' IQs using a measure of vocabulary that is correlated with overall intelligence.

    Two sides of the same coin?
    As previous studies have found, people with low cognitive ability showed a lot of prejudice toward some groups. But the researchers also found that people with high cognitive ability showed prejudice, too. To find out who dislikes whom, Brandt and his colleagues analyzed the characteristics of the groups that low- and high-IQ people disliked.

    They found that low-IQ people tended to dislike groups that were both perceived as liberal and that people have little choice about whether they join, such as blacks, Hispanics, Asian Americans, and gays or lesbians.

    Higher-IQ people tended to dislike groups that were perceived as conventional and that people seem to have more choice about joining, such as big businesses, Christianity, the Tea Party, Christian fundamentalists and the military. It was somewhat surprising to see prejudice among liberal-leaning people, Brandt said, as liberals tend to be high in the personality trait of openness to experience.

    "Even people who are high on openness to experience, openness to new ideas — they show this link between perceiving somebody as having different attitudes than them and expressing prejudice," Brandt said. "It's kind of depressingly robust." [How to Talk About Race to Kids: Experts' Advice for Parents]

    People's perceptions about a group's ideology and their perception of whether people chose to join that group were both key to predicting prejudice, Brandt said. It wasn't just one or the other; people with lower IQs tended to perceive liberals as liberal, for example, but also to perceive them as having a choice of whether they identified as such. Thus, prejudice against liberals is actually partly canceled out.

    The importance of removing the value judgment from the research is that it gets at the basic motivations at play in prejudice, Brandt said. When researchers focus on prejudice only against disadvantaged groups, they can help explain those types of prejudices, but they can also end up arguing that people who aren't very smart must process information a different way or have different motivations than brighter people, he said.

    The new study suggests that there's a more universal psychological process at play, he said. Other research by Brandt and his colleagues has looked at what's behind the tendency to dislike people you disagree with. The strongest factor, Brandt said, seems to be that people dislike other people who they perceive to have different moral values than they do.

    "We want to be at a place where we can say, 'Yep, I disagree with you, but that doesn't mean I dislike you, necessarily,'" Brandt said. "But that seems to be something that's relatively rare."
     
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    Thanks for having to reach back over 100 years to find an example. The Founders were racist too. There's cultural racism among all less sophisticated cultures. That said, despite being a slave owner and banging one of his slaves, including having slave children with her, Jefferson struggled with the disconnect between his culture and the higher ideals of the Age of Reason.
     
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