BREAKING: Paul Manafort found guilty on eight counts

Right... she's an avid Trump supporter who was still able to see through the rhetoric and apply the law.. I'm not sure of her background as either an IRS or DOJ expert, but those are 2 very overused RW talking points she stated...

I read that stuff on the prosecution team... funny... If you put in the hours these guys probably did to make this happen, you'd probably grab the occasional "catnap" as well...

 

I don't believe that this is legal precedent. Anyway, using it to defend Trump's conduct is a poor excuse, as in "well they got away with it
so why not Trump?"

 

Ok, and one doesn't have to be a republican to say this non-sense is ridiculous. No one cares about these allegations. I don't care if he had an affair. I don't care if he paid to keep her quiet. I don't care that Obama snorted coke of some dudes butt back in college. I don't care about their personal lives, especially if they are not destroying America or making policies that go against my ideology. Paying hush money about an affair is not a crime. Someone else paying the hush money is not a crime. Paying that person back is not a crime. There is NO victim here, there is NO crime.

 

It started out as an investigation into Russian influence in our election process. Nobody pulled this idea out of thin air.

 

It's all about the timing dude... If he had paid her off soon after the encounter (either woman), no worries...

10 years later in the late stages of a campaign, worries...

 

There is more involved here than a simple payoff to keep an indiscretion from a spouse. Timing, for example. Just before an election?

 

It's completely accurate and as I said Starr wanted to prosecute Clinton but the Democrats refused to remove him from office so he could. That is why during Clinton's last week in office the SC at the time Robert Ray took the indictment to the White House and told him either accept a plea bargain and lose your license to practice law or we will prosecute. Ray believed that the fact Clinton had settled the lawsuit for $900,000 and had been fined $90,000 by Judge Wright in her court for the perjury and obstruction of justice justified a plea bargain to the legal sanction on the criminal side.

And Trump did nothing criminal in paying off Daniels PERIOD. But that being said Clinton paid off Lewinsky for her participating in multiple felonies in a federal court and that did not warrant removal from office. He used his power AS PRESIDENT to do so and he was not removed from office.

So what is the justification for removing Trump from office for something he did as a private citizen which was not illegal?

 

I don't think Jr. has had a long chat with Mueller.

 

You know, this is the epitome of a witch hunt, go out looking for a crime without any credible evidence.

 

Yes Manafort should pay a price for his illegal acts. They had NOTHING to do with Trump or Russian collusion.

 

Not because he has refused. If Mueller wants to talk with him it's up to Mueller to call him.

 

They are desperately intent on finding one. Do you think this is how government should operate?

 

We don’t have all the details for the ones who are cooperating, just what they plead to. But Manafort and Flynn’s are public record.

 

What negotiation? Like republican were gonna vote against tax cuts lol

 

Why hasn't he talked to him and cleared the matter? Isn't that what we want to happen, clear it up and issue his report?

 

In your mind, it was not illegal. Just before an election after 10 years, may be illegal if payment was made to influence the election, yes?

 

The budget negotiations with the Republican House.

 

He took a job with the campaign for free and tried to use it to “get whole” with an putin connected oligarch.

 

There is evidence of Russian involvement.

 

The part of the government tasked with finding and punishing criminal behavior??.. Say, like, a Department of Justice??

Yeah, pretty much...

 

In the law it was not illegal and are you telling me candidates do not try to influence the election? WOW he spent money and held a rally to influence the election/ WOW he bought TV ad time to influence the election. WOW he had hats made. AND it was a personal matter too. Trump could spend his own money as he saw fit, that money is not regulated.

Suggest you go and listen to Prof. Dershowitz on the matter.

 

They don't subpoena someone they think they will indict.

 

Investigating crimes, not trying to create them, not just choosing someone to investigate to find out if they ever committed a crime. In Watergate, Whitewater/Madison, Lewinsky they started with a known crime. This one is two years and no direct crimes, just these totally disconnected pleas and prosecutions.

 

63% in the house 69% in the Senate opposed to the Republican 80% and 83% respectively. Still a majority of Democrats and while that 17% to 14% difference is significant it's nothing compared to the breakdown between northern and former Confederate states who voted against equal rights for blacks by over 90% whether they were Democrats or Republicans. So really it's more accurate to say the north fought for freedom and equality against the south, again. Blacks vote against the south and you can call them dixiecrats or Republicans, or libertarians or tea partiers, we will always vote against you.