BREAKING: Paul Manafort found guilty on eight counts

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Why do you keep bringing up Clinton? Who cares about Clinton? Only you
     
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    Sure it is. You know this is the best way the government will get you if they really want to. Capone was arrested for what again? Tax evasion. Its a matter of who you are to the prosecuting officials. Al Sharpton is in jail for his tax evasion right? Nope.

    Taxation is theft and if you don't pay, they will come to your house with guns and lock you up...if they aren't your friends.
     
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    And only dems care about this and Trump. Who cares that its the least cared about thing by the public, you guys keep thinking that supposed collusion or Stormy will play some roll in the elections.
     
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    Not as much as Republicans. More support from Republicans than from Dems.
     
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    It doesn't make it right because Sharpton is not in jail. Taxation is theft? Oh well
     
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    Historical precedents, deal with it. And the Democrats are STILL trying to get payback.
     
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    Well you better because there is legal and political precedent, deal with it.

    If you want some legal or political action against Trump then the legal and political precedents will play a role.
     
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    I'm sure it would be, but is it worth it? You got him on a good variety of counts this time, and you have him in court in < a month for some different crimes.

    I'll bet Mueller doesn't go for the retry on those 10 counts. Assuming it's the same prosecuting team going in DC that went in VA, they'll need to get ready for the DC trial.

    I understand he has until 8/29 to decide.
     
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    Well, thanks for giving them the opportunity!
     
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    These are not DIRECTLY tied to Russian collusion, this should have been a tax audit and the IRS filing charges and then the regular DOJ prosecuting so that Mueller won't waste his time and energy on matters NOT Russian collusion.
     
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    Let's understand that I am not "you guys." I will not support a divisive, incompetent, lying, crooked con-man like Trump. That is the difference between me and "you guys" who you have called Democrats. One doesn't have to be a Democrat to oppose Trump.
     
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    Only because they were going to lose their political ares's if they kept giving aid and comfort to the segregationist wing of their party.
     
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    ROFL talk about a a whataboutism?
     
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    Hardly precedents. You need a better argument than a constant reference to Clinton.
     
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    And she also stated she believe Mueller went after Manifort just to get at Trump and this should have been handled through normal IRS/DOJ channels. She did NOT speak highly of the prosecution team.
     
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    Don't think so.
     
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    Criminals, what crime did they all commit, please give us the details.
     
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    They may indeed be tied to conspiracy if Trump is financially tied to Putin's friends.
     
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    What he is supposed to be looking into and I wish he would concentrate on that but the fact is he has already issued those indictments, prosecute them and end this perpetual investigation looking for something anything to lay on Trump.


    Everyone involved completed cooperated with Mueller.
     
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    We hopefully will find out what crimes they committed when the investigation is complete.
     
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    ROFL absolutely so which I have been noted and you want to be obtuse about. We are a country of legal and political precedent. Deal with it. Else explain why Trump should be treated different.
     
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    And as I said, this started without a crime, that is NOT how such investigations are to be started or proceed. Hey why don't we have an investigation into to you to see if you ever committed a crime. Lawyer up and mortgage your house.
     
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    Yes if it was a reporting crime that would be against the campaign and there would be a monetary fine.
     
  24. ibobbrob

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    Mueller is looking for the truth and not something to lay on Trump. Wouldn't surprise me if Trump is up to his eyeballs in criminal
    activity.
     
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    In a negotiation with the Republicans in the House. You want these rates permanent vote for more Republicans in the Senate and ensure they hold the House.
     
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