BREAKING: Paul Manafort found guilty on eight counts

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    It may because Manafort was involved with the pro-Russian dictator in Ukraine and Trump is involved with Russian oligarchs, and there may be a connection where money is concerned. We don't know, do we?
     
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    Sure they do. What's he going to be indicted for?
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    WOW
     
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    :deadhorse:

    EDIT - Your general lack of knowledge about how criminal investigations work is shameful....
     
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    Psychological projection is just that........Cohen pled GUILTY to many crimes (more pleas to come ;) )and implicated The RU Puppet at the same time as an un-indicted co-conspirator.....you are grasping for straw with the no crime spin. Trump is not above the law unless you want him to be King.
    FYI see post #554, ADD knowingly & intentionally committed multiple felonies.
     
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    That's just the tip of irony ;).
     
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    That's what she said...
     
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    Candidates are free to donate their own money to a campaign, but the can't pay hush money without disclosing it.

    Giving Trump some leeway, he never was a serious candidate before, so he may think it's very unfair that he cannot pay hush money when running for office in the same way he customarily paid hush money in his everyday affairs. (-: I mean from Trump's point of view, what's the good of paying hush money if you have to disclose it as a campaign donation!
     
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    Still not a crime.
     
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    Still not a crime.
     
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    Russia was involved in paying Stormy?
     
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    And Bush had one of the largest, if not the largest, debt increase in history. More than doubled the debt.
    But debt doesn't really matter to you, does it.
     
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    My guess. Trump Tower.
    But he will be toward the end as Trump will go nuts.
     
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    Do you take AA or AAA batteries for that response??
     
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    Nope, Obama beat him on that by doubling what bush had doubled. But hey, it wasn't cause of the tax cuts.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
    Since two different people answered the same way to my post, I figured Id do the same.
     
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    Of course that is a lie. Are you just uninformed?
    The numbers are out there for all to see.
    Bush over 100%
    Obama, 86%.

    But go ahead and post your numbers with links. From a gov't accountability office

    09/30/2017 20,244,900,016,053.51
    09/30/2016 19,573,444,713,936.79
    09/30/2015 18,150,617,666,484.33
    09/30/2014 17,824,071,380,733.82
    09/30/2013 16,738,183,526,697.32
    09/30/2012 16,066,241,407,385.89
    09/30/2011 14,790,340,328,557.15
    09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
    09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75 Obama budget start
    09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
    09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
    09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
    09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
    09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
    09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
    09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
    09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06 Bush budget starts 10/1/01
     
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    Oh, you are going to go with percentages instead of whole numbers. Whatever you want to do to change your goal posts. Biggest debt increase was most certainly $8 trillion over $6 trillion. But hey, who cares, its still single digit trillions anyways, its not like either will actually reduce the debt.
     
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    It is a crime and it is a felony 10 years after the fact and just before the election. It is also obstruction of justice when Trump injects himself into an ongoing trial
    because this gave Manifort the impression that a pardon is on the horizon so that he will keep his mouth shut. Sad that your crooked con-man president won't let justice prevail and has no regard for our system of justice. I wonder what Manifort knows about Trump's
    follies. We may never find out.
     
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    1 person let Manafort off the hook according to a juror.
     
  21. ibobbrob

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    Russia was involved in interfering in our election obviously. Hardy har.
     
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    There are two ways to look at the U.S. budget deficit when determining which president has run the largest deficit. The first is to look at each president's term or terms in office, total the deficits run over the course of their four or eight years, and base your conclusions on those numbers. According to this method, Barack Obama's budget deficit was $6.69 trillion over his eight years, making him the president with the largest budget deficit. George W. Bush is second, with a deficit of $3.29 trillion over his eight years. Ronald Reagan is third at $1.412 trillion deficit in eight years, and George H.W. Bush comes in fourth with a $1.03 trillion deficit in his single term.

    The big difference is, Reagan and the Bush's actually rebuilt the military and did a better job overall while Obama threw money down the toilet and destroyed the military in the process. I think these numbers are actually being too kind to Obama as well, he did so much harm to the country but we are slowly getting it fixed.
     
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    Nope and nope. Paying someone not to speak is not a crime. Especially when they weren't paid to be silent on an issue that wasn't a criminal offense to begin with. So there can't be an obstruction charge when no crime was committed in the first place. Telling a cop he can't look in my home without a warrant isn't obstruction. Being sopena of my electronics and destroying them after being served is obstruction.
    Oh, Manifort said he was expecting a pardon? So what you are saying is any testimony Manifort says is really tainted because he expected something for his own wrong doing, but isn't getting it so he will try to throw Trump under the bus. What Manifort is being accused of, has nothing to do with paying off Stormy, that is why Trump is owning up to paying her off.
     
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    Really? By making memes on FB? By paying FB to spotlight those memes. Because the Trump commission just came out and said there was no voter fraud or voter tampering found in 2016.
     
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    Only if you believe that your fellow American is too stupid to render their vote. Nothing was changed, and the vote certified. Deal with losing.
     
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