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I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Sackeshi, Oct 11, 2018.

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  1. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    I could not care less about anyone knowing my medical history. Got nothing to hide.

    Monitor, simple allow clinics to stay open for the exemptions and monitor all the reasons people come in
     
    Sackeshi, Oct 13, 2018
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    YUP, what some people don't realize is that if one segment of the population loses the RIGHT TO THEIR OWN BODY , which is what banning abortion does, then it opens the gate for other "undesirable" segments to lose their rights.

    Who would be next? Gays? Trans? Minorities? It is a VERY real slippery slope...
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    States can decide what types of terminal fetal illness is exemp
     
    Sackeshi, Oct 13, 2018
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    Well, that might be the way backwards third world dump countries do it but here we respect privacy.


    The government needs a reason, probable cause, etc. before they can search private medical records...…


    Do you still think doctors have files marked "HERE ARE MY ILLEGAL OPERATIONS"....:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Only someone with something to hide would care if they have private records
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Well yeah because doctors are held in check by a bar association.
     
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    NO, that isn't the way it works.....our medical condition/history choices are private...in some third world , backward country I'm sure people are treated like cattle but they shouldn't be in this country.

    Here's a shocker for ya, the world doesn't operate on your beliefs...thank goodness...
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Well, that might be the way backwards third world dump countries do it but here we respect privacy.


    The government needs a reason, probable cause, etc. before they can search private medical records...…


    Do you still think doctors have files marked "HERE ARE MY ILLEGAL OPERATIONS"....:roflol::roflol::roflol:



    What has that got to do with the post of mine you quoted????

    AND it makes no sense....the bar association is for lawyers...
     
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    "God made us above animals" - Is this your argument ? Even if you could prove this claim true - how does this justify your other fallacious arguments such as your assumed premise that a baby exists in the early stages of pregnancy.

    You claim a cow and a human are two different things - you are on the right path ! . A zygote (single human cell at conception) and a living human are also two different things... more different in fact than between a cow and a human.

    Sticking to things human however. The zygote is a single human cell. How is this cell significantly different than other human cells (heart brain and so on) that we should claim one is a baby while the other is not ?

    You have an opportunity to do something that no anti abort has ever done - which is give a coherent answer the above question = preferably something other than "God says so".
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you have no respect for essential liberty. The principle on which this nation was founded ?

    There is a reason why the right to privacy is enshrined in the constitution. Clearly you do not know what this reason is.

    Newsflash !! - its not "because you have nothing to hide".
     
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    So we can do away with the right of privacy in not only our bodies but in every other aspect of our lives as we have nothing to hide from a all powerful government?
     
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    Should be amusing to have large numbers of US women going to an EU nation for a legal abortion an then applying for political asylum over the matter.
     
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    By the way how likely is it for women as a whole to vote for their own slavery when it come to their own bodies or do we need to somehow repeal the 19 amendment also?

     
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    A lot of people vote for Democrats. Most of those people are duped by the political lies, or are naive and don't understand, and others are "useful idiots" and actually believe and promote the lies.
     
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    Privacy is NOT mentioned once in the great compromise fails
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    The EU does not recognize Americans as refugees. Not does any other first world nation
     
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    LOL that is now not in some fantasy alter reality where US women are send to prison for murder for having an abortion.
     
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    Interesting given the history of that saying that was apply to those who accepted the claims of the commies during the cold war and given that history it seem more fitting to apply the useful idiots term to Trump supporters who brought into the Russian campaign enough to elect Trump.
     
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    You misspelled republicans
     
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    There was no "Russian campaign". If you have proof - any proof, anything - you better go tell Mueller.

    But teh only proof is tied to Hilary when she was Sec of State and sold out the USA.
     
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    I love how you pro abortion people respond. Murder is murder and murdering a zygote is the same as murdering a living thing because a zygote is life being created. If a woman does not want to be pregnant she should stop having unsafe sex. Unless her life is in jeopardy then there is no reason to kill the baby.

    "Hearing the Fetal Heartbeat. Doctors use several different methods to listen to the fetal heartbeat. About 3 weeks, one day after fertilization, when the heart first begins to beat, the sound of the little heart is too soft to hear. Very soon thereafter, they can see the motion using ultrasound technology.

    4 This folding forms the chest and abdominal cavities and incorporates a portion of the yolk sac which becomes the lining of the digestive and respiratory tracts.5 Thus, development of the digestive system is underway just 4 weeks after fertilization.6

    7 These buds are the first visible indication of the developing arms and legs.8Skeletal muscles eventually enable you to move your body."
    http://www.ehd.org/dev_article_unit4.php
    See it is a living thing. It is life. You sir are wrong. So why do you support murder?
     
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    "Hearing the Fetal Heartbeat. Doctors use several different methods to listen to the fetal heartbeat. About 3 weeks, one day after fertilization, when the heart first begins to beat, the sound of the little heart is too soft to hear. Very soon thereafter, they can see the motion using ultrasound technology.

    4 This folding forms the chest and abdominal cavities and incorporates a portion of the yolk sac which becomes the lining of the digestive and respiratory tracts.5 Thus, development of the digestive system is underway just 4 weeks after fertilization.6

    7 These buds are the first visible indication of the developing arms and legs.8Skeletal muscles eventually enable you to move your body."
    http://www.ehd.org/dev_article_unit4.php

    It is murder no matter how you look at it. It is life being created. If the mother did not want the baby she needs to stop having unsafe sex.
     
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    Yeah I got no problem with killing that
     
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    Baby's have a heart beat at 3 weeks old. Stop supporting murder. We need more conservative judges to end abortion.
     
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    Not gonna happen
     
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