yet another coal mine in WV closing

Vote VOTES, VOTES, in WV, Western PA, Western Kentucky, Southern Ohio, and states with open pit mines in the West. That is all.

 

For someone who believe that then condense the water vapor and bottle the water and drink it. Simple!

 

So we should destroy the environment because “tradition” ? Look, I understand that their are those who fight for “clean coal”, when in reality it is much less cost effective to make “clean coal”, than it is to use renewables like wind and solar. THOSE are the wave of the future. And then theirs natural gas which is MUCH cleaner than Coal (hint: thats why we dont shovel coal in our houses anymore )That debate has been had, and coal lost. Time to move forward, not backwards because someone thinks they can make a buck, or for political gain.

The entire industry as a whole is a joke. Coal miners make poverty wages. Most qualify for government assistance, or as anyone whos honest says, “the government gives the coal companies wage assistance”. We wont even go into the dangers of the job, the health risks for those who work in them, etc, etc, etc. And I give you 2 final words.....Don Blankenship.

 

The mass of the Earth is finite, so by definition they are finite resources.

They may or may not be scarce.

 

The snowflaking of right wing hearts, minds, and souls is the reaction of their questioning of their collective cognitive dissonances.

 

That is a triggered response of the right wing conspiracists.

 

Nah! Just stick up some wind turbines outside the White House

Mind you this is what the right think we mean when we talk about wind power

 

Errrrr pardon??

 

For Commie hating righties, this alone is enough reason that America should continue burning as much coal and oil. If commies like renewables it must be a commie plot to destroy the american market place obviously.

 

Lets revive blacksmithing!!!! Makes sense right?

 

Absolutely. Blacksmithing has become a serious growth industry.

https://www.nextpittsburgh.com/features/pittsburgh-blacksmithing/

https://www.theartcareerproject.com/careers/blacksmith/

 

And turning back the clock and living in the past is why America is being left waaaaaaaay behind by China and India

 

Uh, the Coal industry has been dying for a while, and is accelerating because of the price of Natural Gas.

https://fox2now.com/2018/08/21/what-killed-coal-technology-and-cheaper-alternatives/
https://www.colorado.edu/today/2018/05/07/natural-gas-and-wind-energy-killed-coal-not-war-coal
https://phys.org/news/2018-05-natural-gas-prices-war-coal.html
https://www.inverse.com/article/33210-coal-industry-dying-study

Now, that said, Coal will never completely die out, because of it's uses in Metallurgy (steel production mainly if I'm not mistaken) but most of those will move to automation to fulfill the majority of the necessary work.

 

That’s cool. They ought to be closing.

 

Nobody is living in the past in the US.

But embracing time honored skills is certainly better than the globalists desire to transfer our jobs to foreign countries.

 

So your educated reply is something to the effect of "I'm rubber, you're glue"?

Gonna have to try harder.

 

My reply to the triggered right is quit being silly and write honestly.

 

No he hates poor people who are always the primary victims of environmental pollution.

 

No, he isn't much of a businessman, but he also doesn't stray far from real estate.

 

Yes except what we are actually doing is continuing the extraction of a major pollutant while applying the fig leaf of " developing clean coal"

And continuing research on cleaning up coal has nothing to do with continuing production.

 

I've never understood why this issue resonates with Trump voters who don't live in WVa.

 

Well. actually, that's the choice most countries are making.

In the US, the percentage of the energy market dependant on coal has been dropping steadily since 1901. Even coal rich Britain, put the Royal Navy on oil before 1910, and North Sea gas displaced coal as a primary heating source as well.

Coal is not the low cost fuel, and hasn't been for some time. Coal is not cheap to mine, requires a lot of secondary handling,. must be transported by rail (rather than pipeline), generates huge amounts of hazardous waste, and lots of air pollution, the business risks are hard to assess.

Natural gas has none of these drawbacks, which is why the electric power industry is switching to it wholesale.

Renewable energy is the growth produce, even of the flat earth types continue to look at it as a fringe technology. Couple this with efficient cheap battery technology, and centralized power stations of any sort become very expensive white elephants.

But the coal industry has been able to convince the West Virginia crowd, through relentless marketing, that all of these factors don't exist, and that the real reason coal has been in decline is because of the black man in the White House (dispite the fact that the decline predates him by 100 years).

 

You have plenty of practice on that score!

 

We are extracting major pollutants to build lithium Ion batteries, solar panels, transmission lines, etc. along with the fuel used to process all the materials needed to build them, maintain them, etc..

With Coal as a resource, sufficient revenue would be generated to fund the additional R&D.

It's poor policy to allow emotion to walk away from such an abundant natural source of energy.

 

All sources of energy should be used as civilization continues to become more and more dependent on it.

At one point, everyone thought iron was the metal of the future. As demand grew, further research allowed for the creation of steel.

Gas lamps were first introduced as a way to light buildings and cities. That led the way to electrification as a more viable method of doing the same thing.

Coal is an abundant energy source, and as time went by, R&D vastly improved the cleanliness of it's use. That would have continued.

It is poor policy to walk away from such an abundant resource.