I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

Its not wrong. Its great!

 

Then you have zero conscience nor morality. In plain English. Pure evil

 

The starting place must be that abortion is a medical procedure and is a beautiful and wonderful thing. Proceed from there

 

You really think so?

Note that wrong and illegal are not necessarily the same thing. Not everything that is wrong should be illegal and especially when it comes to individual choices, people are very prone to making the wrong ones. Now, I am not saying that abortion is always the wrong choice (although it sometimes is). What I am saying is that a woman who finds herself in a situation where she needs and abortion, she - obviously - either did something wrong or had something wrong done to her - No one really dreams about having an abortion, so this should not be that controversial of a claim.

 

No one really dreams of having any medical procedure.....but they are not wrong. They are great

 

No. The starting point should be "How can we make sure women do not have to get one?"

 

That is the same for every medical procedure. But I am glad they are all available should I need one. EASILY AVAILABLE

 

No, they are not great. No one dreams of having lung cancer and having treatment for it is, obviously, not wrong. However, smoking eight packs of 'Camel' a day is wrong and should be avoided. The treatment for lung cancer in itself is indeed more wonderful than it is wrong.

 

Yes and the treatment for an unwanted pregnancy is in itself more wonderful than it is wrong. We agree

 

So, you would not teach your kids to be cautious and responsible? "Drug addiction? Who cares, honey? Have some coke because it does not really matter, we have great rehab clinics!"

 

Yes teach them to be cautious and responsible....but if they are human and they make a mistake I am glad all options are available for them

 

And the unwanted pregnancy is actually really, really, really easy to avoid, unlike some other diseases.

 

So is smoking induced lung cancer. But you would never call the treatment for that wrong

 

Well, duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh! There was a reason I picked self-caused lung cancer as a comparison!

 

Is treatment for that wrong? Are you fighting to stop treatment for that?

 

Go back and re-read all my posts, you clearly missed every single point that I made.

 

Just answer the question. It is very straight forward.

 

1. Are you creating a Human life and then Killing that life just for your own pleasure? No with abortion you are.
2. Smokers/drinkers should be forced to go on their own insurance that has no non smokers/drinkers on it so that we don't have to pay for their stupid life decisions.

 

1) I am fine with that
2) Dumbest idea ever and nowhere on the planet operates that way

 

No, I will not answer a half-arsed gotcha-question which I have already answered only a few posts back. If you are debating me without following along with what I am writing, that is your problem and not mine.

 

I accept your concession and will not answer your questions either.

 

1. So you are pro abortion got it.
2. So you think I should pay more for dumbarse smokers and drinkers?

 

I am VERY pro abortion. I am also pro heart surgery and pro dental extractions

 

You don't need to post anymore. I asked a simple question and you refused. Your concession was accepted

 

No thanks. LOL