Elizabeth Warren's DNA test says there was a Native American ancestor 6 -10 generations ago....

Hey ... I'm 1/512th minority of some sort, and I don't like your white supremacist tone.

 

Birtherism was always the primary goal, the rest was fluff.

 

He's obviously using it as a colloquial expression just to torque up hysterical liberals. 100? Yes, he's smarter than I am, and I am in the 115-120 range. Nothing to brag about, to be sure, but he's smarter.

 

So you are suggesting that you are in triggered mode by the truth? Is that even rational?

 

Pretty sure he was kidding. Liberals have no sense of humor.

 

Your failure, deflection and running away are duly noted. Bernie bros are so yesterday.

 

I agree that Chris "Buttertub" Christie is a 'scum-sucking pig' (thanks, Marlon Brando, in "One-Eyed Jacks"). And while I know that you despise Donald Trump, both of us surely note that although Christie 'lifted his skirt' numerous times to be embraced by Trump, he was rejected repeatedly by the Trump White House!

If I have one recurring fantasy it is that people with such disparate political views as you and I have could magically find a way to compromise and form a winning coalition, Te. It would mean the death of both the radical, America-hating Democrat party AND the desperately ineffective, declining Republican (RINO) party. Sadly, it will probably take something pretty dreadful to shake things up enough for that to happen -- like a REAL economic 'depression'. And the signs are emerging that we may see one of those in the next five years....

. From a time when American-made movies really were "GREAT"....

 

I did not mention religion

So peddle your strawman somewhere else

 

I'm suggesting Russia has meddled in Liz DNA test.

 

Since you presumably know it, why not tell me?

 

Trump has tried to get funding for the wall

But the corrupt swamp rats in the senate are holding it up

Trump has done as much as he can within the limits of executive authority to fullfill all his promises

Btw: who did you vote for?

 

You said he keeps all his promises. You didn't say he, "tries," to keep all his promises. Your boy Trump insisted that ONLY he could deliver the goods. He failed at keeping his Three Major Promises. End of story.

As for my secret ballot's content? LOL! Not much choice was there?

 

Maybe I'm just feeling wistful, but, honestly, Dairy, I do SO wish that somewhere, somehow in this country, we could once again find citizens of the quality and calibre of John F. Kennedy, and/or Ronald Reagan to lead us.

Trump never was 'my guy'... Rick Perry was, and an excellent president he would have made... but, well, that's history now.

Still, I'll 'adhere' to Trump so long as the only things the Democrat Party can throw at us are doctrinaire, 'Socialism-lite' creatures like Obama, 'Dizzy Lizzy' Warren, Corey Booker, Kamala Harris, et al, etc., ad nauseam. And tragically, we Americans are almost totally blind to what's coming -- a military and economic alliance between the Russian Federation and China, probably with the EU in league with them eventually.

Those two countries grow more powerful, wealthy, and effective throughout the world every day (investigate China's "Belt and Road" programs). And we sit over here with our idiotic obsessions about 'political correctness', 'minority' quotas, and other senseless crap that contributes nothing to any sane person's concept of a better, stronger, "GREAT" United States of America!

 

I didnt say all of his promises

But certainly the ones within his power yo keep

So who did you vote for?

 

Snap!
There may be more people than you think, who share your views.
The problem will be this: the "America-hating" part of the Democrats are, in their core, young middle class lib/rads. When I say 'core' I don't mean the voting base, outside of certain East Coast counties, but their intellectual apparatus. There are probably a lot of ordinary working people who vote Democratic, but would really like to see the old Democratic Party of FDR, Truman and JFK.

In terms of class position, they are not very different from the people who rejected mainstream Republicanism for Donald Trump. I wouldn't call that mainstream Republicanism 'RINOism', by the way. I don't have an acronym for them, but they are the people who seem to be indifferent to the economic problems of anyone below corporate board level, and who have been responsible for, or didn't object to, the foreign policy failures of the US for the past 25 years.

The question is: is there enough of these possibly-disaffected Democrats and disaffected-Republicans, to form the base for a new party?

What would be the fracture-issues that will have to be fudged or compromised? I think abortion is one such issue. I can't see a party that takes a hardline stance on abortion -- say, proposing to outlaw it nationwide -- getting a durable majority. There are many people on the Right who might want to make this a deal-breaker... would former Democrats compromise on this? I don't know, but it seems unlikely to me.

Another is economics: you can't get around the fact that the American workingclass has not really done very well out of our economic growth since 1970. Trump promised various infra-structure projects, and it's possible that protectionism will provide short-term job growth ... but I suspect that a new non-America-hating party with a lot of former Democratic support is going to have incorporate a substantial amount of the old FDR/JFK party's economic stance.

Finally: foreign policy. The whole Washington Establishment has a worldview that is pretty much a continuation of their Cold War view, with new Global Enemies substituted for the Soviet Union. Trump promised a radical shift from that -- but his performance in office seems erratic, even more belligerent sometimes than the previous neo-conservative (or neo-conservative light, under Obama) model. I don't have a short-phrase alternative to it, but ... this question has to be faced. In particular: is Russia really our enemy? And more importantly: what to do about China?

 

I dont see big government liberals and small government conservatives reaching a happy compromise

Nor socialists and capitalists coming together

Nor globalists and protectionists

Not to mention those who want open borders and those who do not

But maybe I’m just not as much of an optimist as you are

 

Ignore because it is you and Warren who are trying to move the goalpost not Trump.

The goal post were, at the debate, a commercial test he would provide, salvia given on the spot, test sealed and mailed off and results come back she is an "Indian".

How did her test cross those goalpost?

 

Warren claimed to be a Cherokee

Which is unprovable

 

Would you say obama and hillary are merely average also?

 

But she's not a Republican. She's a Democrat who wants to run for President as a Democrat who previously claimed to be a native american who's actually 99.95% white.

Reminds me of when that white woman pretended to be black and became President of an NAACP chapter. Until everyone found out...

 

Yea, I understand that Cheokee would not show up. I am just taking shots at Elizabeth Warren for falsely claiming she was Cherokee when she is not even Native American Indian. At least not that can be proven. In fact, she is less Native American Indian than the average European. Also: Bustamante didn't compare Warren's DNA against Native Americans who live in the continental U.S., he used recent samples from other countries whose populations presumably share a lineage during human settlement of the Americas about 15,000-25,000 years ago.

Warren's sample was compared against 37-person reference groups from Nigeria, China, Latin America, and Europe, and then contrasted against larger samples of white British and predominately European-descended Utahans. Overall, Bustamante found her DNA to be roughly 95 percent European.

“How accurate are these? There’s no validation test,” said Tufts University professor Sheldon Krimsky, who studies ancestry research. “There are methods of doing it, I suppose. You would have to get, for example, independent evidence of someone’s ancestry from records or their own information from families.”

The fact that Elizabeth Warren claimed minority status based on her ties to the Cherokee tribe and her Indian ancestry is something we should all be concerned about. In the age of "white privilege" claimed by so many, here is a wholly white woman faking her ancestry to take advantage of being minority.