Biological Male Wins World Championship in Women's Cycling

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    I think the transgender thing may be a test ballon the progressive puppeteers are floating to see just what people will believe. I think the sky’s the limit...
     
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    WOW. You brought up far left. So I responded in kind to far right.
    This isn't partisan. It a freaking sporting event, not a political event.
     
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    You do know there are women have testosterone. And some women naturally will have more than others.
    And some males will have lower testosterone and higher estrogen.

    And in general men have much higher. But we are not talking about the average male, we are talking a transgender. What level of testosterone did this person have before taking testosterone reducing medication? How much after?

    I am no expert, and it doesn't seem you are either.
    I'll let women's cycling run their show how they want.
     
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    The sky's the limit? Like the entity that lives in the sky that many believe created the universe and all things?
     
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    "You brought up far left. So I responded in kind to far right."

    Even though it's not relevant. Is it just a reflex?

    "It a freaking sporting event, not a political event."

    It is political in that it's another leftist conceit being foisted upon the world.
     
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    You are limited in muscle growth and development by your skeletal structure/Frame. Why don't women play linebacker in the NFL?

    He was a biological male from birth, therefore, he was a man competing in a women's event.... no matter what he claims he put down on his Drivers License. :)
     
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    Sigh....

    I am not arguing that, I am saying that the changes made by the hormones previously cannot be taken back.

    Shoulder width, hand size, skull thickness, these are all traits that are accelerated by being male through puberty.
     
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    Again, you don't know what her hormone makeup was.
    I've seen many males that are very feminine and small framed. And I've seen many women who are big boned and built like a brick **** house.
    But we're talking about a transgender. So who knows what the hormone makeup was.
     
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    From Yahoo sports? Didn't see a thing about a testosterone suppressing
    drug there
    . Where did you see it?
    I did see this cyclist whining ironically about the fairness of not letting transgendered males compete against biological women.
    She calls it a "human right". A human right to cheat and take advantage of the maleness she was born with. Ironic, as I said.

    I've seen nothing to indicate that but even so as I've already documented purely by being born as a male this bicyclist has a whole bunch of important natural advantages the women he/she competes against cannot possibly access.

    Of course I have. Don't go fibbing now because you can't counter human physiology and biology.

    Wow! Bold talk from a science denier.
    Clearly there is a difference between women and men's athletics. They compete in separate divisions, you know.
    Hacking your junk off doesn't do a thing to correct the imbalance in cardio-vascular and muscular/skeletal differences between the two sexes. You are arguing from a place of ignorance when you pretend otherwise.
     
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    Beyond testosterone levels and muscle mass, a biological male has a larger heart and greater lung capacity. These things are not diminished by hormone levels and definitely give an edge to a male. Cycling would be one of those sports where that edge would be a great advantage.
     
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    Sorry. I can't be there to read for you. But it's bolded above.
    Still waiting for the rules violation.
     
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    What relevance does this have to the subject of transgender cyclists?
     
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    Nothing. Like your post about what you believe.
     
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    Yawn, a biological male wins an event over real women and lefties think it's just awesome!
     
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    Apparently you aren’t a fan of figures of speech and their meaning because my post was about transgenderism and politics, the most prevalent themes of this thread.
     
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    No, it was some pie in the sky belief about what you thought the left might believe.
    Like many believe some thing in the sky that created things.
     
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    It was a theory based on evidence postulating the leadership of the left (your term) must have some reason to push this agenda so hard. If you are privy to the closed door strategizing of what I assume is your party I’m welcome to a report. Otherwise I’m left to wonder and theorize. I believe that’s allowed here...

    Or we could just be having a breakdown in communication. It happens on forums...in that case it’s not worth arguing about and I exit the stage with a low sweeping bow.
     
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    Just as I can't be there to think for you. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/893280

    A casual claim that someone is "suppressing" their testosterone is no guarantee at all that they actually are. This woman McKinnon can claim anything she wants.
    She may actually think she is suppressing her testosterone levels but my link proves that the overwhelming odds are that she is not. You just can't fail enough, can you.

    And in any event, the testosterone in her body currently does not negate the testosterone that built her male body and gave her so many natural athletic advantages already listed.

    I already addressed rules violations. Thanks.
     
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    Absolutely! Testosterone has nothing to do with an inherently superior cardio-vascular system and musculoskeletal system.
     
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    You gave a non-answer.

    I asked for YOUR opinion try again

    So how about men who identify as women playing on the women's' softball team? Basketball? Marathons? Weight lifting?
     
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    Not my party.
    You can theorize. And as with most all theories, they can be shot down.
    It could be a breakdown.
     
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    You're link is useless and a violation of TOS?
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    So continue with fake links and personal attacks. For that proves you have no argument.
    You could not have addressed the rules violation. For there were no rules violation(s). Else she would not be able to compete or not be able to accept the winning trophy.

    I will now wait for further personal attacks as a sign you have no argument.
     
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    As I said 2X before. If they aren't violating the rules of said sports to what is a female and what is a male. I don't care.
    The sports have very strict rules on this issue. Especially in world competition areas, such as Olympic sports.
     

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