I want to create a large private city in middle america that can outright ban guns.

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  1. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    If its the comma fixed, if not then where LOL
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Na, you are not even warm.

    As for what's incorrect, I'm not your attorney, keep trying.

    This is going to be fun. ;-)
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    The prohibitions expressly, ban guns, abortions alcohol and tobacco
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are getting somewhat closer, but think again.

    Clue. Vertical.
     
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    So you don't care about the Fourth Amendment either. Got it.

    What a laughable load of garbage.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    The 4A does not cover checkpoints.
     
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    You clearly have no desire to be a U.S. Citizen, because you reject the rights inherent to that status.
     
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    It covers illegal search and seizure, which is what you propose.
     
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    The word you're looking for is "border". A "boarder" is someone attempting to get onto something.

    What you don't get is that your "gun free city" would rapidly become a crime-ridden cesspool with innocent people brutalized on every street corner. The Constitution is the law of the land; if you want to live somewhere that doesn't have a Constitution, you are free to move your happy ass there.
     
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    It clearly does, and for a safe place such are proposing, would also violate the Commerce Clause.

    What you are proposing to do is build a walled community, which is legal to do in the U.S., however your homeowners association, which is all it is, can only pass rules, not regulations or laws and your rules cannot, supersede any county regulations, state statutes, or Federal laws or rights.

    You are dead right out of the gate.
     
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    Canada, Australia, New Zealand all gave "constitutions" handed down by the UK. The UK does not have an official constitution. All 4 are doing just great. I was in Canada for a little while. Was so safe and nice, that I could walk in the middle of the night through Toronto and not have any fear.
     
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    Corporations have the right to run their private property how they wish. Also you really think this USSC is going to vote against a corporation having a city?
     
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    Then, please, feel free to move there, and take your anticonstitutional viewpoints with you.

    You can do that where I live too. Of course, you again reveal how out of touch you are, when one points out how high Toronto's violent crime rate has gotten in recent years....
     
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    You're so close to finding the missing "t".
     
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    got any new jokes?
     
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    With 50+ years of material I couldn't possible compete with the stuff you post.
     
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    Unless you comply with all county, state and federal regulations and laws, I can guarantee you, if the case made it past District Court, up to the USSC you would lose.

    By law, I cannot simply form a "I shall speed all I want on the highway" corporation and give everyone who buys my stock immunity to traffic laws, I do not have, as a corporation, the authority to overwrite state laws.

    You are in the same boat, which just sunk.
     
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    the difference is that everything is PRIVATELY built and owned.
     
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    Which is not a legal defense for activity that ultimately violates clearly established laws.
     
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    Matters not.

    Lets say I build a trailer park down the road, and having a ton of money, get the Florida Legislature to carve out my trailer park, as it's own county.

    So being my own county, I can form a Sheriff's department, by law.

    That done, I setup checkpoints and order my Deputies to not let, under any circumstances, any of them dere N*****'s into the community, cause being a bunch of white racists, we know, they being of color, jus like all gun owners, cannot be trusted and are probably up to no good so they must be excluded.

    How long do you think that would last before I was enjoined out of business?

    Your idea is doing the same thing just a different target.
     
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    Yeah, we saw how the police cowered in their cars as one of their own was hacked to pieces by a violent criminal with a knife, as they waited for arrival of the "special unit".
     
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    Because they did nothing wrong. The government did, and they murdered innocent women and children. It's people with a viewpoint like yours who deserve the harshest penalties for your totalitarian beliefs, and deserve to be bodily chucked out of this country. You don't deserve to be a citizen of this country.
     
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    So, arbitrary and capricious laws showing utter contempt and dismissal of fundamental human rights and civil liberties. Wow, you are one... special... kind of person, aren't you??
     
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    Self-reliance, self-determination, self-responsibility, self-defense. I know such concepts are alien to you, so I won't bother explaining further.

    By what standard? Sorry, I know plenty of people who came to the U.S. precisely because we are the freest nation in the world; totalitarian outliers like California and New York notwithstanding.
     
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    You're free to leave too.
     

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