Abortion and poverty

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  1. FoxHastings

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    :applause::applause:


    :applause::applause:...and certainly more than those who call women animals because they have sex....
     
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    Yes

    Because just shouting at people will achieve sweet fanny Adams. It will of course make YOU feel better about yourself

    Terry Pratchett summed it up

     
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    That is bizarre because an unwanted pregnancy is by deginition one that is not wanted
     
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    Yes because for a solution to be viable you have to work within the parameters of human behaviour

    http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/to...y/769-abstinence-only-until-marriage-programs
     
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    But we have shown you that abstinence does not work so how does it equate to prevention?

    And there are a lot more people out there is extraordinary circumstances. Who are you to judge thier lives?
     
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    And such is not being disagreed with.

    Out of curiosity, what is the chief cause of condom failure? Factory defects? Poor storage that degrades the materials? Substandard materials for supply to low-income areas? Too thin? Chemical reactions with various substances meant to enhance sexual encounters?

    A fair, worthwhile point. It is for such reasons that the veritable brick walls must be addressed, in hopes of addressing those willing to listen by extension, as they will be able to view the back and forth discussion, and draw conclusions for themselves.
     
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    No such belief is held. But it bears repeating.

    And yet in this permissive culture of casual sex and hookups, they knowingly engage in behavior that will actually result in pregnancy, without consideration for the consequences that can result from such.
     
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    And yet there are humans who have demonstrated the ability, and willingness, to not engage in sexual encounters, especially random and unprotected sexual encounters. If it is a viable option in some situations, why can it not be considered as a viable option in more situations? Not all of them, as such is impossible, but simply more?
     
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    What exactly do the abstinence programs amount to? Perhaps the problem with their effectiveness is the subject material rather than the intended message? Has any independent review been done to evaluate what is being presented to others for consideration, to determine if the message is in need of modification to account for the current generation that believes sexual encounters should not come with any strings or consequences?
     
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    And abortion preys on them!!!!!
     
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    The difference is between "perfect use" and "typical use". And the failures include such things as using two at once, not leaving enough room at the tip

    https://www.livescience.com/18660-common-condom-mistakes.html
     
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    Why does it stalk them? Jump on them at corners?
     
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    Knock yourself out
    https://scholar.google.com.au/schol...effectiveness+abstinence+only+education&btnG=
    Keep in mind that only the first thousand or so will be relevant
     
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    It's too bad whoever or whatever created humans didn't just clone a perfect one....but the reality is all people are different.

    As I've told you a dozen times YOUR idea of responsibility or how to handle responsibility does NOT rule the earth.

    If a woman aborts a fetus she does not want she IS acting responsibly....who are YOU to tell her otherwise??? Or tell her she's a dumb animal because she had sex??

    As some people see it it IS responsible to not have a kid you don't want or can't afford. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean they're wrong...





    What do you mean by "And yet"...??? Yes, that is what humans do....

    Ya know, you should really find out who created humans and asked why the product doesn't measure up to your standards.....why it's so seriously flawed..


    I'm tired of this circle we're going in and your inability to address what's written in a post.


    If a woman aborts a fetus she does not want she IS acting responsibly....who are YOU to tell her otherwise??? Or tell her she's a dumb animal because she had sex??
     
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    :roflol::roll::roflol::roflol: OOOOOHHHHH, the DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMA....

    Abortion is this big monster stalking poor people!!!

    Making them poorer by having less children! Oh , the Drama, Oh, the Ridiculousness!!!
     
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    And YOU seem to think that NO one else can think of doing that by themselves. They need YOU to inform them of this quite common idea? NO, not really.

    People are free to do as they please …...and they will....

    And if a woman gets pregnant and she can't afford a kid so aborts it, that's a sensible responsible thing to do. She has every right to do it .
     
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    What does one say to women when you don't want them to have sex?

    Shame them?

    Browbeat?

    Call them animals if they have sex?


    BTW, many sexual encounters come with no strings attached or consequences.


    AND for one preaching abstinence you sure don't seem to know much about it.... Wouldn't you KNOW the answers to your questions if you are such a strong proponent of abstinence ??
     
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    "And yet," "And yet" "" and yet" " and yet" " and yet""

    .....YUP your "and yets" should clearly show you humans will not change.... More BS, HOW do you know people have sex without consideration for the consequences? Now you think you can READ their minds as well as control them ???
     
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    If they "Killed Children" they would be in Prison at the very least.
     
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    How can an elective medical procedure prey on someone?
     
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    Nope because some brain dead justices decided to make it legal to kill children
     
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    Well....at least you admit to your lawlessness.
     
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    If abortion can prey on anything, that would make it a living being. Are you suggesting we kill a living being?
     
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    Then if such is ultimately the case, if the entire human race is simply unwilling to, and incapable of exercising basic, intelligent thought, if they are unable to rise above base primal instincts and demonstrate that they are more than some dumb animal, no different than the average bovine being raised for meat, what is ultimately the point of continuing to exist? To simply observe as the entire human race becomes stupider with each generation, to the point of arriving at a generation which is incapable of remembering to breathe on its own?

    There are already those who are incapable of tying their own shoelaces without following a step-by-step tutorial on their smartphone. If such is simply going to become the norm for the human race, what point is there in any particular individual refraining from simply opting out from further developments?
     
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    The entire human race is all these things? Uh, you are certainly Doing The Drama tonight , aren't you? :)

    How bleak for you....


    To take women's right to their own body and turn it into Doomsday...is kinda silly...I think :)
     
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