"Christ" and "Christians"

I am curious your reaction to a slight change in the religion. How about deleting all the shameless manipulation of prospective converts. Stop promising heaven and theatening hell.

If the police ask you questions with the threat of life long waterboarding vs. 100million for saying what the police want want... well that is not exactly unforced testimony is it?

 

Lean on the Lord = ignore the lies and distortions from religious bigots

 

It bothers me to see lies, distortions, and religious bigotry paraded around as 'fact!'

 

That is a false statement. There is evidence, that most Christians can testify to. It is not empirical, but it is still evidence.

 

Already done:
..Confirmed and verified over 2000 yrs of scholarship and historical research.

The arguments of incredulity you employ are invalid, and are not evenly applied in your knowledge base, but prejudicially cherry picked to fit an anti-christian narrative.

 

Nobody is promising anything, here. Who are you directing these accusations towards?

 

No one is promising anything.... ?

Here you go

https://www.bing.com/search?q=heave...-36&sk=&cvid=90CE6F26E6584BD1ADF5F59E8D7471EC

 

I read back in this thread and see no promises or threats of heaven or hell.. that was your point, no?

 

More like YOUR fairy tale...

 

Accounts that are 2nd hand at best and written decades after the fact and assembled into a document four hundred years after the fact are not evidence.

 

It is up to your people to prove your claims. Now how bout you prove Krishna doesn't exist.

 

No my point was NOT that you or anyone on this thread personally promised me anything. I regret my lack of clarity on this point. Please accept my appology for the confusion

 

an nonbeliever foolishly thinks that, but, hey, it is your opinion

 

Not in the slightest. You cannot prove that God does not exist. That is your claim, yet you won't prove it.

 

I take on all challengers, and have from the start on this forum. Sometimes I am wrong and change my position. When you have a real arguement, let me know.

 

This is just anti-christian indoctrination, from years of propaganda. None of your accusations are true. The historicity of the biblical manuscripts are beyond reproach, but that was not the evidence i meant.

 

Primary and secondary sources. We send people to prison based on hearsay evidence in some cases.

An amazingly short time by historical standards. There was no reason to write them before that while the witnesses were still alive. Interesting we have no record of anyone disputing the miracles prior to 100AD, while some witnesses were alive. Even the Jewish leadership didn't deny them, but attributed them to 'sorcery', both in the NT and in the later Babylonian Talmud. Why wouldn't they just deny them if they never happened, as you try to do?

 

How does that impact you since you don't even believe in God, I presume?

 

If you know what the Bible teaches then you should know what the two main points are.

 

Jesus demands that a certain number of believers must be killed for their faith before he returns. That adds another one.

 

There was no character named *Jesus* before 1632 so why do you believe he existed 2000 years ago?

 

Whatever you call him or not, Wyrd, He remains your Lord.

Tough beans for you.

 

Sorry, but I don't worship ethnocentric Jewish zombies.

 

Tough beans, Wyrd. That changes nothing for you.

 

As a piece of literature, what he wrote must surely vie for being the most incredible written work of mankind given its magnitude, the poetry, the consistency, etc.

The Bible gets significance because of the number of people who value the message - not because of the character of the writing of the various contributors.

I'm not sure what other written work would compete.