Dick's Sporting Goods loses firearms businesses after gun control push

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by MolonLabe2009, May 11, 2018.

  1. Vegas giants

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    To reduce deaths? Most of them
     
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    Oh! Oh! I know!!
    The 1994 federal ban on 'assault weapons'!!

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    What? There have been suggestions, but most people are screaming too loudly about this issue to hear them.

    Since 1900, there were only, maybe, a handful of mass shootings in the US until, oh, arguably the late-seventies, early-eighties, but definitely no later than the mid-eighties. Since then, mass shootings have risen pretty much exponentially, which was also around the same time funding began to be cut for mental health. Hospitals began closing, turning away more potential patients, and/or cutting services for existing patients. All in all, sick people either lost or were no longer able to receive essential mental health treatment.

    At the same time, gun control measures have also risen virtually exponentially since the mid-nineties with the Brady Bill and VCCLEA right along with the death toll from these mass shootings. For over 200 years, we had virtually no gun control and far less recorded mass shootings. I don’t see any evidence that gun control has any real effect on murder rate statistics, at least not in the US.

    We need to appropriate more funding to mental health research, treatment, etc. It’s really that plain and simple, for all the reasons listed above.

    Gun control is a bandaid. Democrat politicians push it for the same reason Republican ones pretend to hate abortion- not because they care, but because their constituents care; they’d be out of office if not for it. A significant amount of the talk centers around feel-good garbage that doesn’t even address mass shootings. There is some reasonable points concerning gun control, but much of those have already been implemented: restrictions for convicted criminals and those with mental health issues, for example.

    I can’t really get on board with ideas that have already been proven ineffective for the last 20-25 years, and the whole, “we just got to make the laws tougher,” mentality sounds way too much like the old Drug War mindset of old, when we naively poured all our resources into punishment and discipline as a deterrent to drug use. It didn’t work, and neither will gun control.
     
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    Pro gun here but do that many people really have AR 15s? What do they do with them ?
     
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    Really? That's what you're going with.....an opinion from 18 yrs ago about an incident 23 yrs ago. Brilliant!!! Well done!!!
     
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    All evidence to the contrary.
     
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    The current situation in the US shows that a free market on guns is just as bad. Please try again.
     
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    Yes you have, unfortunately that statement brings nothing to the argument and doesn't support any of you arguments and does nothing to refute my point.
     
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    I refuted your point many posts ago. You've been trolling since. Do you need a refresher? I'll even show you where you deflected.
     
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    And I'm sure that made you very happy. How many do you have? 5?6?
     
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    I find it interesting how you didn't mention the NRA's about face on their stance on gun control or how powerful their lobby is. Hey, you want to go with your mental health idea being the problem go ahead. Your wrong, but you're entitled to your opinion.
     
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    Please do
     
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    You also claimed this to be true...

    You then deflected once confronted with this. Since then, you've done nothing but shift the goal posts because you and I both know that banning AR-15s (or anything else) won't stop anything.

    Don't get me started on the marijuana prohibition...
     
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    The right of the People shall not be infringed.
     
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    You really have to pay attention....or remember what people say. LIke you said, I did agree that banning the AR-15 wouldn't solve anything, as I did in the post before that and what also said in both is that you have not offered any solutions....which I also said in the post you're replying to and in both cases you offered nothing AND said I"M moving the goal posts AND deflecting but the fact is......it is YOU that is doing just that.
    And to be clear, banning the AR-15 at least could be the start of something. As an example: drunk driving. We haven't ended it but there have been a lot of steps that have driven those numbers down.
     
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    And surprisingly the NRA was for it. I see you've been brainwashed.....so sad.
     
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    Tens of millions have been sold. I have three, as well as several stripped lowers.
    The AR platform is suitable for any traditionally legal purpose someone might have for a firearm, except hunting birds on the wing.
     
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    If by brainwashed, you mean I can read the text of the Constitution, that's a label I'll happily accept.
     
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    Well, look at the big brain on DentalFloss......you can read the Constitution!!! You can also avoid explaining how the NRA and the Supreme Court have had different interpretations of the same document and the current one (that you agree with) is getting a lot of people killed.
     
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    The right of the People shall not be infringed.

    There are no conditional clauses on that.
     
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    Great post. IMO you have delineated the key issue here.

    The Left wants to take no responsibility for its historical policies or even attempt to address their negative effects sensibly. They blame simplistically thought up scapegoats instead.
     
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    Ironic given that is the NRA's own simplistic SOP whenever there is a mass shooting!
     
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    Colt started selling the AR-15 in 1964. The AK-47 has been in production since 1949. Columbine was the first really orchestrated school shooting on April 20, 1999. That's 35 years between introduction of the AR-15 and Columbine and 50 years since the introduction of the AK-47.

    Fascinating how for 35 years there were no mass school shootings with either the AR-15 or AK-47, but as realistic first person shooter computer games advanced realistically in conjunction with reckless prescribing of psychotropic drugs to teens and the school mass shootings started. If people are serious about stopping the tide of disturbed teens buying or stealing a AR-15 and shooting up a school like a first person shooter game, then those games should be banned for sale and possession. Add to that removing a psychiatrists ability to prescribe psychotropic drugs without the OK of a real physician. Blaming the gun is like a miner finding fool's gold.
     
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    Federal law doesn't include age-

    201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

    Most states have enacted similar statutes with an expanded list of characteristics. Businesses must comply with both state and federal laws.
     
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    Correctunless I am mistaken, a FFL can choose to decline any sale at his/her discretion.
     
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