By starting the thought with 'Suppose...' I was hoping you would understand the scenario to be hypothetical.
LOL you do know that the states just walked away from the articles of confederation an did not follow the procedures contain in the articles to change it as it became a dead letter. No one in fact felt like going to war to defend that system of government at the time either. No reason I can see why we can not do a similar thing today in breaking up a union that is no longer meeting the people needs. Somehow I can not see people being willing to fight a large scale civil war again in order to keep the union together.
we Canada) had our secessionist uprisings there was blood death and oppression...even in the late 60's there was the nationalist sentiment of crush and kill separatists but cooler heads have prevailed(old nationalists died off)...no one wants to die forcing others to stay within our federation who don't share our agenda... if they want to leave do it democratically by referendum (defeated both times) and if that's' the decision adios and good luck, we'll still be friends and trading partners...no one needs to die over something as anachronistic as nationalism...
Definitely not. We'd just end up having to invade anyway when it becomes a Russki, Chicom or Islamist satellite. Swell, but We the People are the Emperor of the US, and We are definitely in position to disallow it, and so We should. Horse hockey.
Isn't a perpetual union directly opposite to the ideas of the founding fathers? The idea of a large all powerful federal government was what they feared. They wanted the citizens or the people to be in charge to provide for more liberty and less oppression. I think?
Thanks for validating you weren't aware. What is 'Calexit' and how can California secede from the ... https://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans... "A member of the California federal delegation to Washington would propose an Amendment to the US Constitution allowing the State of California to withdraw from the Union. What Is Calexit? California Considers Leaving US After ... www.ibtimes.com › National It is not just a Twitter joke. Californians are seriously considering seceding from the United States after Donald Trump went from being the Republican nominee to President-elect. California has good reasons to secede, but a noble reason ... www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-california-secede... Dec 07, 2016 · A group trying to get California to secede from the United States said the results of the presidential election give their cause new momentum. David.Horsey@latimes.com Silicon Valley investors call for California to secede ... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/09/trump-win... Students protest in Davis, California after Donald Trump was elected Tuesday night. Some technologists in the Silicon Valley have proposed that the state leave the US in response. Although, its not surprising.
I see no evidence their concept of the nation they created was so simplistic. In the Constitution, they prescribed how a state may join the Union, but made no provision for secession. The Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that the Constitution constitutes the supreme law of the land. In case of conflict between federal and state law, the federal law must be applied.
Ask the European Union about this. It's about ultimate power, but also competition. Can you imagine having a competitive libertarian democracy competing with the SJW communist workers paradise of Kalifornia?? Ask the Europeans how they really feel about Italy....
Thank you for confirming my assertion that no state is seriously attempting secession, neither by legislative initiative nor by referendum. As the late Justice Scalia observed, there is no right for a state to secede from the union.
there would have to be a state-wide referendum, approved by 60%. and at least 51% of eligible voters must have voted.
An there was no right for the founders to had just walked away from the articles of confederation either an unless the right wing would care to fight a bloody civil war to keep the northern states in the union the game is over but do not fear you would once more be free to have slavery and to seized all the lands of Mexico this time around. At the very least white Christians males would once more take their 'rightfully place on top of society without those dam liberals telling you that blacks and latins and other have the same rights you do.
You're right -- it's all about power, and making people who don't agree with you bend to your political will.
e It would be one of the driving engines of secession.along with the shame being felt by the citizens of the northern states of being in the same nation that could elect someone like Trump.
Sooo.... you have nothing to support your proposition other than your own hyper-partisan bigotry and bias. Got it. Thanks.
I'd allow CA to secede in a second. Then I would say no whining for any federal aid from the U.S. And build the wall right around CA so they can keep their illegal immigrants and be a sanctuary country. Seriously, though, this isn't going to happen. Nancy P. isn't going to let it.
If a people in a defined territory decide they want independence it is their right to have it, by any means necessary. Revolution is justified against unions which force populations to remain against their will. That goes for the independence of: Crimea Catalonia Scotland The UK at large Northern Ireland Sealand Hutt River North Korea FFS Anyone.
