Why do Republicans lobby on behalf of people who live like royalty?

Yes that was part of the deal. To help keep the lower income people insured.
Which in the long run, would cost the tax payers less than if they had no insurance at all.
So you would prefer that they had no insurance at all rather than give them Obamacare.
Correct?

 

When did I suggest poor people are burglars and rich people aren’t?

Obviously it isn’t exclusive to second graders. You have used it repeatedly. I don’t keep up as well as I should on Trumps lawyers but if you say they are using that defense then we’ll go with that. Does that mean I should do what Trump does? Should you?

You are confusing two very different issues. Giving someone tax dollars collected from others is not the same as giving someone a tax break or tax cut. I am opposed to cash subsidies for any businesses. I don’t expect anyone to give tax dollars to rich people. Not even Elon Musk!

Now, how is taxing someone less a bad thing? Is it bad that we don’t confiscate money from poor people.? Does anyone moan when poor people get new deductions? No? So why moan when less is confiscated from others? Again you want double standards based on what you think will benefit you or punish those you envy.

How exactly did I elect Trump? Be specific.

No idea. Doesn’t change the temperature of my pool. (Figure of speech, I don’t have a use for a pool, can’t swim).

Then don’t make it complicated. Try more contemplation and less attributing of things to me I didn’t do or say.

 

They already have Medicaid. I’d prefer they have jobs and buy their own. With that said, I’m certainly against the Obama Corp welfare to big insurance.

 

Why do Democrats lobby on behalf of people who live like royalty? Hint:

“In late 1999, Barbour and Democratic lobbyist Tommy Boggs we're planning to open a downtown restaurant called the Caucus Room, Which the Washington Post described as a “red meat emporium” that will “serve up power, influence, loopholes, money and all the other ingredients that make American Democracy great.” Seeking investors, Barbour called McAuliffe and asked for $100,000 which he sent over immediately. A while later, Barbour called back, said that they were oversubscribed, and sent back a check for $50,000. "So I figure I made fifty on the deal," said McAuliffe, who never saw a penny more.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, p. 145.

 

Okay...Let's try a different window.
Do you consider yourself Republican or Other than Republican?

Sorry I have to go spend some food stamps. Need milk and bread.
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If you think CEOs don't work hard, you've never personally met a CEO. How do you think they got to the point to become a CEO? Accidental? Stop using outliers as a measurement. Of course there might be some that inherited the role, but again, thats not normal by any stretch. Regarding the single mother...why is she single and a mother with 2 jobs? Who's choice was it to have children if she didn't have the skills or education to take care of them? Sounds like a series of bad decisions, that can't be blamed on anyone else except herself.

 

Beyond that, why are the law ‘n order folks—the lock her up folk—- so very defensive about lawbreakers associated with president trump. It seems like as long as you loyally tow the the party line you have a get outta jail free card

 

There ya go! You answered your own question.

It is very disturbing to constantly see those with an "R" get persecuted, while corrupt "D"s are lauded.

 

how do you know I've never met a CEO .... what do you know about me, my education, my work... my experience...

Here's what you do, because I'm more than prepared to face the truth and acknowledge the inequality in wages and effort... you make assumptions about me... well you're wrong.... about me and about CEO's working harder than the average person. They are HUGELY overpaid

 

It's a system... a system of highest profit at any cost, where climbing over and on top of people is a pre-requisite.

 

If that's the system...

Who's fault is it that they choose not to climb up and over people?

 

Geez I don't know TC do I have to answer all your questions

it's not a choice, not for everyone

some people play by the rules, some don't, some get caught, some don't, some pay off officials, some don't.....

essentially it's have money will travel

 

Not that it matters, but after re-reading this thread...I believe the best answer to the OP was the above.

 

There is a point!

There are people who, legitimately, cannot support themselves. Sometimes it's due to mental impairment, sometimes it's because of a physical defect or injury, sometimes it's a health problem, sometimes it's a family problem, and other times it might be the result of some event (such as being the victim of a crime, or unjust legal action).

Everyone else can support themselves. All of those who complain about "the man" keeping them down, can support themselves. They may not achieve the success of their dreams. Not all can. What they can do, is rise to the level of success that their competency, decisions, and attitudes allow.

Attitude is a huge factor. Anyone who wastes time and energy blaming "Them" for their circumstances, is choosing to remain stuck in those circumstances. In general, people who complain about "The System" being rigged against them, are making the choice to not try to improve their condition. They just might not admit it, even to themselves.

 

Good one. I like humor.

I was a republican for many, many moons. Raised as such though more on the platform than the name identity.

I’m currently registered non partisan. I voted against Trump in the primaries even though by the time my state voted he had the nomination locked up. I abstained from voting for president in ‘16. I thought Trump was all talk and no action.

I’ve been pleasantly surprised. He has done many things I have wanted done for years. Hopefully something better comes along but I’m not counting on it.

I agree with republicans on many more issues than I agree on with progressives. So I vote for a lot of republicans even though I don’t tow a party line.

I know and discuss politics with republicans of all income levels, many religions, no religion, straight, gay, male, female, military, civilian, etc etc. My point is I think I have a pretty good idea of what makes Republicans tick. It doesn’t seem to be a desire to give rich people subsidies or screw poor people. Nor does their voting behavior seem to be driven by stupidity or group think. They mostly have two or three very important issues that are non negotiable and are part of the Republican Party platform (at least historically).

I apologize, I should have made my personal party affiliation or lack thereof known to you. I didn’t intend to be misleading.

 

yes this is true but these people are not working because they can't, so if they are not working how can you even say they are working harder than others. They need to be left out of the equation. Wage stagnation and massive pay gap is a reality, by 2030 we'll have the 1% owning two thirds of all the worlds wealth... please... DON"T tell me they are working harder than anyone else. Have money make more money, because then you pay everyone else to work hard for you... not you actually doing the hard working I don't really see what is so difficult about this. Wages are crap, living expenses too high, something needs to be done

 

Thanks for reply.
May I ask what is your "idea of what makes Republicans tick"?
Because if it is not money, then I have not the slightest idea. Honestly don't.

 

Exactly...Cost of living goes up...wages stagnant. Especially harder for young families.
Much harder for them now than in the 70's.

 

So Progressives hate farmers too?

 

We have never been employed by the poor, the uneducated, the criminals, etc.

But for the rich, we would not know how to get rich, see them doing it, and spoiling it for democrats who whine nobody can get ahead. Years back, in the early 1950s, an old man walked to my parents local small store a lot. He used to tell we teens that had he never seen a person walking, he would have no idea he could walk. Mom took his checks to the bank for him and deposited them when she had to bank for the store. She told me one time she knew for a fact he had around $100,000 in his check accounts. Tony F. the man was. Tony died years ago but not in poverty.

 

You can always ferret out a true Democrat by their hate of at least two republicans. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.

And yet, and this is my promise, Ronald Reagan will climb in history to be this nations best all time president. Forget Trump, Reagan is a lot better. And factually so was George W. Bush. Trump has a major problem that he gets into petty brawls with pencil necks. They troll him and he falls for the trolling. But he has managed government effectively.

I want to name a few things done by Reagan making the very top president of all.
Reagan

Took on the worlds next most powerful nation ever on earth and brought them down. as with all events, no one person, not even Reagan manages a herculean task like that alone. But the media blasted Reagan as a warmonger who was going to get the USA wiped off the face by the then Soviet empire. Daily the media blasted the man. Daily he plowed his own field. Reagan had many problems to hit him and he worked and solved all of them. Reagan did not leave office with any of his tasks not finished. Besides confront the Soviets at all places on Earth, what else did he do. He had a serious problem with iran. Reagan did not lose any helicopters in Iran trying to rescue people. He solved things different. Still Iran was only less of a problem and not eradicated as a major problem. But his main task was never Iran. It was the nuclear powers.

Look at the old Europe of when the Soviets owned a lot of Europe and today. Reagan transformed Europe.

We had a major problem in Central America that Reagan cured.

Notice so far I am not on domestic problems.

So let's nail some of those.

Taxes Reagan transformed this country and it's system of taxes. Even now they call it Reaganomics. You don't hear of Clintononomics or Obamaonomics. But you hear today of Reaganomics. What mainly did Reagan do on taxes that was so shocking successful. It was nothing called trickle down. it was called the ACRS. Accelerated cost recovery system in short.

I knew the system well since i worked with it daily. i saw a failure American market jump to life as if it was set on fire. Companies that did not buy machines suddenly ordered machines. Companies needing new vehicles suddenly bought them. Every element of the market was assisted by the ACRS and Reagan passed that. In fact it worked so stupendously he later was able to crank back up taxes a bit and not stall the economy. Forget all about trickle down, it was the ACRS that did the trick. Most of you were not even aware of it.

Reagan's system.

To this very day, the ACRS is still working. Modified in areas, but still working.

 

Sure. But first I’m going to qualify my response up front. Republican politicians are not the equivalent of voters. All politicians are motivated by power and greed. Well almost all. Regardless of party affiliation. I don’t think it’s fair to equate voter’s motivation of any party with leadership’s motivation in general.

Also, most of the republicans I know well are midwesterners, southerners, and westerners. I’m sure we agree the DC, Wall Street, and other big city republicans (and Democratis) are going to be a different breed of cat.

So, the issues driving people I know to vote Republican are (in no particular order):
Rule of law
Freedom of speech
Education
Freedom of religion
The second amendment
Freedom from pc speech
Protection of innocent life
Equal opportunity
Taxes/economy (opposition to redistribution of wealth and over regulation)

Of course everyone wants to be comfortable and provide for their families but I can’t think of anyone that is motivated primarily by money.

 

Y husband worked on Wall st..he didn’t provide jobs for anyone, we paid huge taxes, and when I once complained he said, “that means we made a lot of money”and we should be grateful. He was right...We paid more than half of our income and it didn’t affect our lifestyle at all. But thanks for fighting for people with lots of money, I will fight for those who need help

 

You

I agree I don’t like those immoral decadent and incredibly hypocritical Hollywood elites either like trump, like Reagan, like Clint Eastwood, like Thompson,. You complain about them but Elect them ..But then again actors are just that, actors and they con people who vote for them

 

What did he do? Sounds like he laid lots of taxes. If you read my post my comment was about people that start businesses in response to the original poster