Federal Judge In Sentencing General Flynn Drops Bombshell On FBI!

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  1. kriman

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    To say otherwise, opens it all back up and with the likelihood of more time and more expense. I am fairly sure we have not heard the last of this. It may be over for Flynn, but not for McCabe, Comey and Mueller.
     
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    Innocent until proven guilty is different than give me my benefits.
    All he had to do was plead not guilty. In my experience if someone is wrongly accusing you and has no proof that ends it.

    The problem the right has with a lot of these cases is that they assume what they see in the charging document of a cooperating person is the only thing they have on the defendant.
    In Flynn's case that might be his work with Turkey with the lies being the easiest, with regard to time, that they could charge him with.
     
  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not so different. You are vastly outnumbered and outgunned in terms of resources. I was told I should apply and then after I applied I was told I was going to have to prove the impossible.
    I have made no such assumption. I have no idea what they might or might not have on Flynn. However, if that is the case, then should charge him rather than blackmailing him into providing information on Trump, which you know and I know was the ultimate objective.

    This is a phase of our history which we will look back on and wonder how we could let such a thing happen. But to the left, any means is worth the effort as long as they get Trump. It does not matter who they ruin. Got to keep their eye on the ball.
     
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    Judge delays sentencing o0f Michael Flynn pending his cooperation in another trial he has to testify in.The judge at one point clearly stated he felt that Flynn had committed TREASON!!!
     
  5. ronv

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    Yes, you had the burden of proof. Just like the gov't had the burden of proof in the Flynn case.
    You gave up because it was hard to prove.

    I don't know what Mueller wanted out of Flynn.
    The thing it looks like he did get out of Flynn was testimony about his firms illegal lobbying for Turkey.

    I think we will look back and see a group of people that thought they were above the law - but were wrong.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

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    Any time you want to apologize for accusing me of being wrong I'm ready to accept.
     
  7. Jonsa

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    He said without a shred of actual evidence. What constitutional rights did "comey's cabal" violate? Who was not legally mirandized?
    What tenets of due process were violated?

    You throw these wild arsed accusations of malfeasance around based on supposition. Meanwhile Meuller is getting convictions based on evidence.

    You can't attack the evidence nor the convictions so you attack the process. Standard criminal defense used a lot by mobsters and gangsters.
     
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    Keep up with current events. Michael Flynn’s Sentencing Postponed, Judge Backs Off ‘Treason’ Questions.

    Steve
     
  9. kriman

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    Why? Flynn was coerced. However, anytime you want to apologize for calling me a liar....Never mind a waste of time.
     
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    ABSOLUTE LIE. He was not coerced into confession and he didn't say any such thing. He was caught red handed.


    Is asking you your nationality an insult where you come from?

    And I'm sure the nation is grateful for your service (even if it took some time after Nam).

    I believe Flynn is being given some slack by Mueller et.al. Judging on what just occurred at his sentencing hearing, if mueller doesn't provide unredacted information on other investigations, Flynn is going to jail no matter what meuller's recommendation might be.

    The judge was not happy with Flynn at all.
     
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  11. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not hard. Impossible. They said apply and then required me to prove scientifically a link between now and what happened fifty years ago.
    They already had that in the recording.
    Maybe so. I could add to the list: McCabe, Comey, Hilary, Mueller, Strzok.
     
  12. Stevew

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    STOP believing the lying liberal media. The Flynn sentencing was just POSTPONED.

    Steve
     
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    In a surprise development, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has asked that his sentence be delayed.

    "Arguably, you sold your country out. The court's going to consider all that." Judge Sullivan told Flynn. "But I'm not hiding my disgust, my disdain for this criminal offense."

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    "Do you challenge the circumstances by which you were interviewed by the FBI?" Sullivan asked him Tuesday. "No," Flynn responded.

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    Were you not aware that lying to FBI was a crime, Sullivan asked.
    "I was aware," Flynn said.

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    Sullivan asked, "Do you seek an opportunity to withdraw your plea in light of those revelations?" "I do not your honor," Flynn said.

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    And then he asked Flynn whether he was "satisfied with your attorneys?"
    "I am," Flynn responded.


    Flynn affirmed that he understood and that his guilty plea stands.

    http://www.news9.com/story/39662960...-says-he-cant-hide-my-disgust-at-flynns-crime

    I'd say that was a trip to the woodshed.
     
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    Mueller or Trump?

    Trump's personal lawyer for 12 years has incriminated him in two felonies. The New York prosecutor has corroborated those charges.

    There are four Congressional investigations and one special prosecutor investigation into Trump's collaboration with a hostile foreign power and obstruction of justice. It is being suggested that Putin has something on Trump. We don't know for sure because Trump is the first President since Nixon not to reveal his tax returns. What is he hiding?

    Trump is amoral and has admitted to sexual promiscuity and is known to know have two affairs, one with a porn star the other with a Playboy bunny, while married to the First Lady and months after the birth of their son, Barron.

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    Because of Trump, the U.S. is the only nation in the world not to be a member of the Paris Accord which is attempting to control global warming.

    Trump imposed a 25% steel tariff and a 10% aluminum tariff on our friends and trading partners creating trade wars which are damaging to all economies.

    Trump imposed harsh tariffs on China, thereby causing a trade war damaging to the two largest economies in the world.

    As a consequence to Trump's trade wars, all the gains made this year in the stock market have been wiped out and millions of American have lost a great deal of their savings in IRA's and mutual funds.

    Trump removed the U.S. from JCPOA which permanently barred Iran from making a nuke and replaced it with harsh language and weak sanctions. As a consequence to Trump's decision, Iran is now free to copy the U.S.. She can follow Trump's precedent and remove herself from the JCPOA and resume her nuclear research if she so chooses.

    Trump has shown a fondness for communist dictators Putin, Kim Jong Un, and Xi.

    Trump has antagonized the leaders of our allies, Britain's May, Canada's Trudeau, France's Macron, and Germany's Merkel.

    Trump has threatened NATO, an alliance meant to control Russia.

    I could go on, but you get the picture. This is why I dislike the Trump administration.

    I have been accused of having TDS. In view of the facts presented above -- facts that are beyond question -- it is Trump's fans who are deranged. Supporting Trump is not in their best interests.

    Ask yourself a question. Why do you approve of Trump? You can't defend what he does or says, and his trade wars are hurting your savings. The stock market is negative for the year. What is it about Trump that you like? Have you ever asked that of yourself, or are you on autopilot?
     
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    Do you really think this kind of argumentation is intellectually honest? Seriously?
     
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    Counter intelligence operations.
     
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    You and the lying liberal media conveniently left out that Judge Sullivan has also said that he has NEVER CONVICTED someone that was innocent even if they said they were guilty.

    GET A FREAKIN GRIP ON REALITY!

    Steve
     
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    Yes it was. Seems you are totally unaware of why it was postponed.

    kneejerking a response can make one look like a jerk sometimes.
     
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    Again: You think the FBI agents already knew the answers to their questions?
    How exactly did they know the answer to their questions?
     
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    You and the lying liberal media conveniently left out that Judge Sullivan has also said that he has NEVER CONVICTED someone that was innocent even if they said they were guilty.

    GET A FREAKIN GRIP ON REALITY!

    POSTPONED!

    Steve
     
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    Excuse me but:

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    POSTPONED! How dense are you?

    Steve
     
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    I guess you missed the part where the judge told him he might get more jail time if he chose today for sentencing.
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    From the intell and the investigation's progress to that date? they were able to "refresh" his memory a couple of times, which should have set off every mental alarm in Flynn's possession that they actually knew way more than he originally gave them credit for - and yet he still lied. Dumbfounding alright.
     
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    That still IGNORES that you and the lying liberal media conveniently left out that Judge Sullivan has also said that he has NEVER CONVICTED someone that was innocent even if they said they were guilty.

    POSTPONED! CLEARLY means the judge wants to look more carefully at what prosecutors are trying to do here.

    Steve
     

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