Federal Judge In Sentencing General Flynn Drops Bombshell On FBI!

Flynn was accused of lying and was fired for it long before Mueller. Or are you forgetting how Trump put him in business by asking Comey to go easy on Flynn.
Maybe you have some of Flynn's halfshimers.

 

That's kind of how trails work, except for the prison part.
I'm not sure any of us know why Flynn stuck to it. He probably would have just got a spanking for the Logan act. Maybe it was all his lies to people like Pence.

 

They knew he was lying because they heard the tapes of him talking to Kislyak.

 

Sure, and continued to go bankrupt and risk mueller going after his family like he threatened. He has fought back now a little, it’s nice to see the judge ordering the mueller team to turn over all the documents and we are now seeing the horrible tactics used by him,

He never said he didn’t talk to him, he simply couldn’t recall if they talked about sanctions. The fbi didn’t think he lied when they interviewed him. It wasn’t until mueller need some witches and he began threatening Flynn’s family did this turn into a lie

 

That does not constitute lying. Lying must be an intent to deceive. But, who is this "they" anyway? Not the FBI agents. Only you because of your vast experience in detecting lies from a distance.

 

You're in another world. Nobody has ever violated the Logan Act in over 200 years. (Well, not prosecuted. It was violated once by Ted Kennedy in the 80s, but that's a whole 'nother story.) Mueller cares nothing about the Logan Act. Mueller cares nothing about Pence (at least yet....). Mueller is tightly focused one one thing and one thing only: finding stuff that the House might find impeachable to help unseat the duly elected president. Mueller will steamroll anybody and anything if he thought it might help his mission.

 

And the murderer said he didn't believe he actually killed the other guy. Hardly a lie.

Never mind he was fired for lying.

Never mind his business partners have now been indicted for their illegal foreign agent activities in America. Flynn could have also been indicted in this case but for some odd reason he wasn't.

Gee ya thing a plea deal for lying was a compromise to ensure this Military hero was not convicted of being an illegal foreign agent. They had him on a few crimes. But Flynn isn't the primary target of the investigation, he was merely a link in the chain, and now he's been fully cooperative with the investigation and has turned over thousands of documents in addition to his testimony.

There's a reason why the focus of the trumpian defense is prosecutorial misconduct. God forbid they should focus on the facts of the various alleged crimes.

 

I'm not sure what part of pleading guilty you don't understand, but here is the document Flynn signed where he says he lied to the FBI.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

 

I'm as baffled as you as to why Flynn continued to lie when he could have said yeah I talked about it. Do you know?
But maybe it is just the crime Mueller let him plea to and the real problem is in some of the other issues they had with Flynn.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

 

You mean the FISA warrant was illegal, as was the routine monitoring of all known russian operatives? There was no illegal unmasking despite the bullshit thrown around by the very same republican congressional committee investigators that failed to come up with a single criminal referral in their myriad investigations into the Obama administration and the FBI.

Keep swingin' at the fences.

 

Except those investigators, on consideration of all of the evidence, and in negotiations with Flynn "settled" on a guilty plea for this particular crime amongst a bunch he could have been charged with. The evidence he provided (including thousands of pages of documentation) resulted in the indictment of his two business partners today.

Some prosecutorial misconduct. Catch one and they help net the rest for ya. Bad prosecutor. Shame.

I find it rather ironic that when defending trump trumpettes always excuse his misconduct by claiming its all about results. But the rules don't apply to your dear leader as they have for every president before him. go figger.

 

Coercing him to sign or suffer more time in prison.

 

1) not sure what you are trying to say with your murder line.

2) he was fired after Obama's Deputy AG Yates came to the WH....the President knew what we all knew at the time, and acted accordingly. Lying to Pence is not a crime by the way...but certainly something you can get fired for.

3) Very odd charge....historically people are contacted by teh DOJ and told they need to register, and are allowed to retroactively. It's not a surprise to see that indictment right after Flynn's lawyers got the Judge to order that Mueller turn over boat loads of document which highlight that the FBI originally didn't think he was lying, and the tactics of Mueller...which he is now taking heat for.

4) agreed Flynn isn't the primary target, Mueller's tactics are pretty clear now that they have been exposed...he'll do anything to find something on Trump. It's quite sad...hence why it's often called a Witch Hunt The President has also turned over thousands of docs....it says a lot too that Flynn was willing to simply sit down with the agents..the Admin wanted to cooperate fully...little did they know just how corrupt the investgition would turn out to be.

5) The facts highlight there is no crime, the conduct of Mueller's team is the issue

 

ONly if it went to trial and he lost. Gee ya think he pleaded guilty because he knew he was guilty and his chances of winning in court were slim?

 

That wasn't in the interview.

 

"couldn't recall" is often used as a defense when answering the question truthfully is an admission of guilt.

Are you suggesting that Trump had no idea that Flynn was engaging in illegal US policy negotiations with the Russians on behalf of the incoming trump administration? He was named incoming NSA on Nov 17. He was actually appointed AFTER trump was warned of the lies and foreign agent activity by Yates, et.al.

What was that I vaguely recall about Extreme vetting?

No its not a very odd charge at all. Perhaps you should read this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...2e98f91ee6f_story.html?utm_term=.b4b6be59d181

This is standard operating procedure for criminal prosecutions. This bullshit is merely the continuation of the "witch hunt" meme trump keeps pushing. Its like the "illegal unmasking of US citizens" bullshit where republicans attempted to allude to misconduct for a perfectly legal process.

So far the facts have highlighted a large number of crimes - that is if you think indictments and convictions are any measure of crimes.

The conduct of muellers team is under attack because the facts are something that Trump et.al. cannot admit.

 

Only? This was the option he was given. Cooperate and no jail time. Don't cooperate and risk a long time in jail with the loss of everything including his military retirement.

 

No it wasn't, but it was in his plea agreement.

 

Long jail time for what?

 

For lying to the FBI.

 

^^^^^
Priceless

 

1) saying "I don't recall" is an admission of guilt? Really? Is that the new standard?
2) there was no negotiating, all that was said was don't overreact. There was nothing illegal about it at all https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...of-flynns-calls-dont-show-criminal-wrongdoing
3) I don't have a script to the Post....so can't see the article. "Unfortunately, it appears that the Justice Department and FBI have been seriously lax in enforcing FARA for a long time. In 12 years, the Department has only sent 178 letters to people it believes should register as a foreign agent. Only 178 letters in 12 years. That’s only 15 letters a year. The Justice Department thinks I send more oversight letters than that in a week. Only nine people in the entire Justice Department work full time to enforce this law and monitor potential unregistered foreign agents in the U.S. It’s no surprise that only 400 foreign agents are currently registered." https://www.grassley.senate.gov/new...g-enforcement-foreign-agents-registration-act
4) No, it's far from normal....even Comey admitted the process in interviewing Flynn was abnormal.
5) Not really a lot of crimes...pretty much the same ones...tax and banking issues from decades ago involving Manafort and Cohen's seperate businesses...and some process crimes. Not much really.

 

The penalty was going to be considerably less by agreeing to the charges than he would receive if he went to trial and lost.

Therein lies the pure evil gestapo type tactics of Mueller.

 

In other words Flynn was lied to about the nature of the meeting. It's that simple.

 

Here is a guy that was set up by rogue FBI agents all of whom have been digraced in the interim and exposed as partizan not investigators.