Apple harmed by Trump's trade war

Unfortunately I disagree and think the sampling here is representative of the entirety of the left in this country. The sleazy fringes as you put it have become the mainstream of the democrat party.

 

Somewhat as happened to Japan when they looked like the emerging economic power in the world. These controlled economies tend to start with a bang and end with a whimper

 

A better US economy benefits me. Let me know when Trump makes that happen.

 

How do we do that ?

 

what triggers me is that there are a large number of people who actually think that reckless tax cuts, or should we say deferred taxes, actually do anything else than a short sugar high for the economy, usually followed by a crash.

 

Apple is ONLY hurt by themselves. They're surprised less people buy their phones, computers or tablets or earbuds, ALL which are too damn expensive in the first place? STOP THE PRESSES!!!!! And I and my family own a number of their products. But I'm not ignorant, stupid or naive enough to understand that they are expensive LUXURY devices. If they had reasonably priced options, they wouldn't be "hurt" by any such slowdown. And hurt if LAUGHABLE. Boo, fracking hoo, they lost some profit. Maybe if they didn't gouge their customers for extra memory or over price their products in the first place, they wouldn't have "problems". hehe. They could lower the price of every single product in the line up and still be making ridiculous profit margins.

 

Obama did, by leaving office. Trump did by reducing regulations, reducing taxes which helped spur the economy.

 

So you are saying that excessive taxes help the economy and put people to work.

 

Lol, the spurred economy:

 

More spurred economy:

 

^ That's a great example ... of the fear that Wall Street & Main Street have for a donk Congress.

 

312,000 new jobs last month. Unemployment at historic lows. Best wage growth in 10 years. Why would you want to go back to the failed trickle up policies of the Democrats?
Apple's problems are their overpriced phones and Xiaomi beating them in China.

 

Stockmarket is not the economy. 312,000 jobs created last month and previous Mont revised upward.

 

We shoild put a high tariff on chinese imports to the US

 

I totally agree, see my post above. I predict that the loss of Steve Jobs will eventually lead to the downfall of the company. This often happens when the visionary is gone, especially for a brand like Apple that was pretty much built on this man's vision alone. You can already tell that their latest products have little innovation. In fact, most of the innovation comes from Chinese phone makers, for example Huawei. They were the first to be innovative with multiple cameras and camera functions. Then there is the Pixel with their new night vision mode. Apple is just copying all these innovations, but it may be too little too late.

A 39% drop of the shares from the top, btw, is nothing to sneeze at.

 

Maybe it'll force them to lower their prices to compete then? They've artificially, sort of, through excellent marketing, been able to keep their prices high and need to be brought down to earth.

 

Their biggest competitor is Samsung whose prices are not much different. It is not the prices that have effective the performance of Apple, it is the trade war that Trump has instigated. The prices are the same as they were when the stock was at its highest

 

Wall Street isn't the economy. Main Street is. Main Street now sees the highest wage increase since 2000. Wages are rising and democrats are pissed.

 

That's because I don't think you do much getting outside of Politicalforum. You have only been here since... holy cow, November 2016, and you somehow have close to the same messages that I do. And I've been here ELEVEN YEARS.

 

Samsung charges as much as they can due to Apple's lead. They don't want to be the cheap phone maker. If you want to compete against Apple you have to market yourself like them. And if the trade war gets China to actually start working on an even playing field and not being the pure corrupt business scum that they are, its a net win for the world. Wouldn't you agree? Or as a Liberal, do you enjoy CHina ****ing over U.S. corporations and IPs, becuase any negative news for the U.S is a win for YOUR side?

 

China is reeling... I had no idea this "trade war" was hurting them so badly.

 

The difference is the following: While Samsung DOES have flagship phones, they also make mid range and entry level phones. Apple has completely abandoned any market but the high end. They are basically a luxury brand. Except that people don't have enough money to buy luxury, so they go into debt for the newest iPhone. That strategy might have worked in the past, but it will wear itself out.

 

That's not Wall Street, that is the value of 30 of the largest companies in the US.

 

You will pay every penny of those tariffs.

 

So you think the Dow and stock values are not Wall Street? Go figure. Sometimes one just has to shake their head in wonder.