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McConnell blocks Senate Democrats' move to reopen government

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MrTLegal, Jan 10, 2019.

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  1. Mac-7

    Mac-7 Banned

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    Trump tried to work with congress for two years to fund the wall

    But even if congress fails to do its duty trump still has to do his
     
    Mac-7, Jan 11, 2019
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I’m sure you will be supportive of a Democratic President that does this in regards to climate change, right?
     
    cd8ed, Jan 11, 2019
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Saluting him because he is holding the entire government hostage and the American people by not allowing a bill to come to the floor that has already passed.

    Here we thought cons had already taken the low road but y’all just keep digging down further.
     
    cd8ed, Jan 11, 2019
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    They already have

    Clinton and obama declared about 15 national emergencies when they occupied the oval office
     
    Mac-7, Jan 11, 2019
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    Assigning blame for this massive goat-screw will be left to the historians, but as far as simply ranking the government shutdown itself, I put it thus:

    40% - Trump - For being Trump
    30% - McConnell - For not voting on D bills now - He did the right thing on 12/20
    25% - Ryan - For not voting on the original Senate bill
    5% - Democrats - Just because they aren't completely blameless here, but close

    But it changes daily....
     
    Egoboy, Jan 11, 2019
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    Just find the wall and all is forgiven
     
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    Mac-7, Jan 11, 2019
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    How can you blame Trump at all if nothing has been brought to him to sign? How can you blame Ryan? He's a minority voter in the House...about as powerless as a guy in the trunk of a car.

    You can put some blame on McConnell...but he has made it clear he won't waste the Senate's time if there is no agreement
     
    struth, Jan 11, 2019
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    We don’t negotiate with terrorists.

    No
     
    cd8ed, Jan 11, 2019
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    Except the senate has already passed the same bill that McConnell is refusing to bring to the floor. His only goal is to protect trump from vetoing a bipartisan bill approved by congress.
     
    cd8ed, Jan 11, 2019
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    If the Senate has already passed it...the McConnell isn't blocking it....you make no sense.
     
    struth, Jan 11, 2019
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    Pathetically weak excuse.

    In fact, the December 11th meeting was scheduled specificially for the purpose of hammering out a deal.

    The Democratic leaders put one on the table. Trump loudly rejected it live on national television and drew his my-way-or-the-highway insistance on his wall.

    Then Trump told McConnell he would take the deal. So McConnell got it voted out of the Senate by unanimous consent.

    The House has just voted to approve the same deal that Trump already said he would agree to.

    The issue is that Trump went back on his word.

    No one owes him anything at this point. He betrayed his own Senate leader in a very public way (and not for the first time either),.

    McConnell doesn't trust Trump. No one in Washington does.

    And that is why McConnell won't move any legislation until Trump publicly agrees to it.

    The ball, and the responsibility is very clearly in Trump's court.

    You would have a point were it not for the fact that Trump went back on his word. And no, once you make a deal, you don't get to welsch.
     
    TomFitz, Jan 11, 2019
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    Either you're just trolling now, or you really don't know anything at all about politics.
     
    TomFitz, Jan 11, 2019
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    Or watches Fox, and believes right wing hate radio?.....

    I'd like to say unbelievable but we see it daily.....sigh
     
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    Hey, I'm just trying to follow the logic that's been presented....
     
    struth, Jan 11, 2019
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    Really? Cause not passing budgets and then the government shutting down till a CR was passed would say otherwise.
     
    Wildjoker5, Jan 11, 2019
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    I will negotiate with terrorists if I must

    So what is your ?
     
    Mac-7, Jan 11, 2019
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    I have no doubt a future democrst president will do just that

    I wont agree

    But just as with you and the wall it wont matter what the naysayers think
     
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    And yet those lies are backed up with facts in statistics from CBP and homeland
     
    EMTdaniel86, Jan 11, 2019
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    No, it would not.

    You Trumpsters are just downright pathetic now. In every case but one, it was the Republicans who forced the shutdown. Every one but one.
     
    TomFitz, Jan 11, 2019
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    Did it include a counter offer to Trump and the Republicans? His much money for the border fencing/wall/barriers did they come up on? What's their number now?
     
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    The experts say different as I have posted and as I just posted in another thread the MSM is hiding that from the public.
     
    Bluesguy, Jan 11, 2019
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    Zorro, Jan 11, 2019
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    lETS HOPE kENTUCKIANS ARE PAYING ATTENTION AND HOLD mITCH tRUMPS bITCH RESPONSIBLE WHEN HE RUNS FOR REELECTION.
     
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    cd8ed, Jan 11, 2019
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    2020 will be the last best chance to get rid of him.
     
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    Anyone with a brain cell would realize that the Republicans aren't anything more than obstructionists for the past 10 years. Not a surprise move here at all.
     
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    Dumb agreement in light they can override Trump if he refuses to sign. Of course, it being Congress and all, I don't believe they have any brain cells to considered the alternative.
     
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