Trump Directed Cohen To Lie To Congress About The Moscow Tower Projec

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Since you know all the facts, why not tell us about the sources?
     
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    This has gotta sting.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Former federal prosecutor and current George Washington University law professor Randall Eliason surmised that BuzzFeed’s likely source was FBI agents working the Southern District of New York case against Cohen. For one thing, Mueller doesn’t leak and FBI agents, who have been known to leak, “would know about all things Cohen, including materials seized during search warrants at his home & office that may be some of ‘cache’ of supporting evidence,” Eliason tweeted. If Eliason is right, that might explain some of the confusion: The BuzzFeed story could be right about what the Southern District had concluded about Cohen’s behavior but have overshot what Mueller’s team thinks. Remember, the Friday evening statement from Mueller doesn’t say the BuzzFeed account is all wet, just that it’s inaccurate in its description of what the Mueller office has learned."

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...ation-buzzfeed-news-report-trump-tower-224027
     
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    I don't really care what Rather says he was wrong but like most leftist will never admit it. Suffice it to say it was bad enough that it cost him his job
     
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    Keep hanging onto the rail.
     
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    His TANG unit was flying in Vietnam when he joined and his last year off enlistment there they were transitioning to the F-4 for which he was not qualified and they had plenty of combat experienced F-4 pilots coming back and moving into the reserves. They weren going to waste the time and money training Bush when he only had one more year of his TANG contract left. Rather's story was totally debunked as were all the stories trying slam Bush over his honorable service to the country in its defense flying a supersonic single engine delta wing all weather interceptor. One of the most dangerous aircraft to fly that the USAF had.
     
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    He didn't say "some" he ran the gamut. And you do realize we won't see a Mueller report. His "report" will go to the AG who will decide what if any actions will be taken and what information will be released from it.
     
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    Just getting better and better. Wonder what the next step is for sufferers of TDS in keeping this DOA Fake News alive?

    Apparently Mueller is going to have to read the thing sentence by sentence and tell them every sentence is false or they will keep braying the rationalizations.

    This issue is one of those aha moments in how the Left reaches the nadir of general awareness they are famous for.

    Also, is there a possibility there's a new sheriff in town? Is there a chance an -honest- swamp creature is coming into power instead of a weak, sleepy one? Because this Fake News cycle with respect to the Special Counsel has been going on for years now with -0- comment from Mueller. Something has changed. Stay tuned!
     
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    Why doesn't Mueller go after the real crime of leaking false information to the public? It isn't necessarily true until it is argued in a courtroom and found to be true.

    Mueller is obviously protecting CORRUPT bureaucrats.

    Steve
     
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    What false information?
     
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    Still peeing down your own leg Lee? It is best to quit before you drown. There is no defense for BuzzFeed's fake story.
     
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    The question is: next time buzzfeed cries wolf, you still gonna come runnin? The villagers stopped after 3 or 4 times iirc, this is more like 20 or 30 now right?
     
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    Yeah, this is fake news.

    You're aware of this now, right?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ueller-has-rebuked-yet-more-fake-news.549489/
     
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    I certainly hope so. I guess it's possible that Mueller has gotten more than a bit tired of all the baseless left wing speculation we see here on a daily basis.
     
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    We know from Trump's defense attorney, Rudy Giuliani, that negotiations over the Moscow Trump Tower continued on into November 2016, not January 2016. Trump claimed the negotiations ended in January 2016.

    "According to the answer that he gave, it would have covered all the way up to November of 2016," Giuliani said on ABC's "This Week," apparently referring to Trump's written answers to special counsel Robert Mueller regarding the deal. This means that during the entire election campaign, Trump had a stake in the Russian government.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday...-trump-tower-moscow-discussions-took-place-up

    This is why Trump would want Cohen to lie.

    And we know this from The Hill article from December. "Cohen last month pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about plans to build a Trump property in Moscow, plans he initially said were scrapped in January 2016, but actually continued well into the presidential campaign according to his confession." As into November 2016, the entire campaign.

    Are we to believe Cohen lied on his own? Trump would not want voters to know he was negotiating a hotel in Moscow while running for President. We are to believe he said nothing about this to his personal lawyer who was about to testify before Congress? That is a bit of a stretch, isn't it?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday...-trump-tower-moscow-discussions-took-place-up

    Paul Farhi in an Op/Ed in the the Washington Post said this morning, "The fact that the normally buttoned-up special counsel’s office felt compelled to issue a statement suggests that the story’s conclusions were too baldly stated and too consequential to stay unchallenged. In effect, Mueller’s office seemed to be saying that BuzzFeed went too far and got some things wrong, though it did not say how or what."

    We know that Mueller does not leak, and this came from "two federal law enforcement officials involved in an investigation of the matter." That has to carry some validity. Some observers think Mueller is feeling deeply proprietary about his evidence and does not want premature disclosure of interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization, internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents.

    That would explain why Mueller could not explain how or what BussFeed got wrong.

    It should be noted that Mueller did not deny the accusation that Trump asked Cohen to lie. He said, "BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the special counsel’s office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony are not accurate."

    In other words, Mueller was solely concerned about his evidence.
     
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    Nobody is confused...Mueller confirm bizzfeeds story was false, inaccurate, wrong.
     
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    So you wish to believe inaccurate reporting no matter what. Fascinating.
     
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    According to Mueller, BuzzFeed's portrayal of the evidence was inaccurate. Mueller did not deny the accusation that Trump asked Cohen to lie.
     
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    Which confirms what Hoosier8 said.
     
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    You are confused. Mueller did not say that. He said, "BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the special counsel’s office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony are not accurate."

    Mueller did not say BuzzFeed's report was "false" or "wrong." Mueller did not deny the accusation that Trump asked Cohen to lie.

    Mueller was solely concerned about his evidence.
     
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    Hoosier 8 said, "Mueller did not deny the accusation that Trump asked Cohen to lie." :roflol::rolleyes:
     
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    You don't know why Mueller said what he did. He said the report was not accurate. That is the only conclusion you can make.
     
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    He also said "So you wish to believe inaccurate reporting no matter what. Fascinating." which is what I was responding to and what you were responding to.
     
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    Not accurate means false
     

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