EXCLUSIVE JUSSIE SMOLLETT TELLS COPS ATTACKERS SHOUTED 'MAGA COUNTRY' ... 'EMPIRE' CALLS IN ARMED SE

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Your opening post is in shambles. You should apologize, retract it, and then wisely follow the 48 hour rule, going forward.
     
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    "The Chicago Police issued subsequent statements denying TMZ's claim that Smollett reported the suspects yelling "this is MAGA country." However, Chicago Police later said that Smollett did reveal the detail in a second interview -- taken after the TMZ story had spread:"
    And
    "Daily Beast later reported that a Chicago Police spokesperson refuted TMZ's claim of the defendants being male and white. The spokesperson stated the gender and race of the alleged assailants were unknown to Smollett because they were wearing ski masks and gloves."

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/shifti...ttack-targeting-empire-actor-jussie-smollett/

    Are you still holding out hope Theresa's an attack and they were white? Why would he still be wearing the rope around his neck 45 minutes after the attack?
     
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  3. Zorro

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    Why are you asking me to interpret @Bluesguy when you can ask him? Have you lost all ability to make sensible logical requests of your interlocutor?

    Have you noticed that Trump-hate is rotting the brains of all that engage in it?

    Stop, while you still can!
     
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  4. MrTLegal

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    His statements, if made under oath, are proof. The justice system relies on eyewitness testimony, especially from the victim, as the sole method for proving a great deal of elements of a crime.

    But yes, I am including that quote as a refutation against the notion that the "this is MAGA country" claim was created out of whole cloth by TMZ.
     
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    Still holding out hope that the attackers were not white?
     
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    Oh so now you want to personally attack me, a fellow PF member!?

    Did you notice how your overly sensitive nature is spreading?
     
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    Let's look at what has to have happened for this to be true.

    Two white racists had to not only know about the show, know him, and care about him enough to stalk his life, in order to know he'd be in Chicago.
    They had to have found out where he is staying. (how'd they do that?)
    They had to know he'd be hungry at 2:00 a.m. (how did they know that?)
    So they could be outside waiting for him while the temp outside is -30 (wind chill,) which causes frost bite in 10-ish minutes.

    You believe this?
     
  8. MrTLegal

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    I DID ask him. You responded to my question that was directed TO HIM by making an accusation against me, so I then followed up your post with a question to you.

    Never mind. Go back on ignore zorro.
     
  9. Zorro

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    It had already fallen apart by the time I got to it. These stories are crumbling faster and faster. And so soon after Covington, you still have no sense of caution? You know, "Maybe I should check into this a little before I slander half the electorate?"

    Trump hate seems to rot the brains of those that engage in it, you guys are deteriorating before our eyes. Why just a year ago you seems fairly intelligent with some logical skills and everything.

    STOP! BEFORE IT"S TOO LATE!
     
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    It appears the Chicago PD have cleared up this fake news mess. It's amazing the left continues to fall for sure things.
     
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    It appears you are really holding out hope they are white...which is odd....and hoping this somehow fits the debunked TMZ story.
     
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    Literally none of those scenarios have to be true (Except the one about them knowing who he was) in order for the attack to take place.
     
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    It never made any sense, yet he couldn't wait to swallow it hook line and sinker. What will it take for them to realize that they are really losing their grip?
     
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    He want this horrible vile world that he believes in to be true, and he wants it desperately.

    It's really sad what is happening to these folks.
     
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    They supposedly had bleach and a noose. Are you suggesting they were carrying those things around in the middle of the night while 30 below, just in case he happened to wander by?
     
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    Are you sure you're a lawyer? Statements aren't proof even under oath.
     
  18. struth

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    I don't want you to crawl any further out on the limb than you already have. I just want you to climb down safely.
     
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    Yes, they are. Consider the classic scenario of a he said, she said with no other evidence.

    In those scenarios, the jury is wholly within its right to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt based purely on the testimony presented. And that is because the testimony under oath is evidence.
     
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    Wrong his statements are accusations, accusations are not proof.
     
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    I am suggesting that Jessie Smullet was attacked, at 2 am, in Chicago, by two people in ski masks who yelled racist and homophobic slurs, placed a rope around his neck, and poured some substance believed to be bleach on him before he fought them off and they also yelled "this is maga country."
     
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    Not only that, but according to the USA Today article, he came home a day early then scheduled...so how did these alledged MAGE, white guys know he'd be home early?
     
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    Actually no.
    Statements have to be corroborated and CREDIBLE.

    Evidences arent proof... You're a lousy lawyer if this is the best you can do.
     
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    And the accusation is only that an accusation not proof and when the accusation is later embellished it loses veracity.
     
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