The REAL Reason the Hard Left Supports Gun Control

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A combination of laws, education and social change. First will be to stop treating guns as toys, concomitant with that will be to stop viewing killing as a recreational activity.

 

But if people still have guns won't the problem still exist? It seems to me many of the anti-gun people want to take guns from everyone. Senator Feinstein wants to take peoples guns.

You don't really have a plan do you?

 

Yes, the Electoral College, blah, blah blah... goes to show that nothing is perfect.

 

It would actually be advantageous for the the leftists to spread themselves out, especially in the swing states where even a small increase of leftists would swing those states blue.

 

I agree with Feinstein and probably go further. In the end guns should really only be used by police and military, and not all of the police. My plan goes further than most, involving a complete overhaul of the "gun culture". It would take a while, about a decade just for the guns alone and involving 20 years or more for the educational and social aspects. Most of our gun manufacturers would go bankrupt; though a surprising number say they are considering ending sales to the general public anyway, supplying militaries being much less controversial.

 

I saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called "Schindlers's List".

The problem with your scenario mother than the tyranny required to get there, is that you can't stop the criminals from having guns and using them against the unarmed populace and unarmed police.

 

How do you convince criminals to change their culture? How do you manage wildlife if there is no hunting? How do you define "treating guns as toys"?

 

California's extra blue voters could easily shift a significant number or red states on their own. They just don't want to leave their "paradise".

 

Good - you understand the people have no right to vote for President, and so your question regarding the rights of the people over the rights of the state is irrelevant.
Why then did you bother to ask?

 

You convince criminals not to be armed by not arming them and by penaliziing being armed very highly. You manage wildlife by sterilized baits, capture and release etc, treating guns as toys is what i said, using them recreationally and killing as a sport. We humans kill to live, both our own and other species, that is unavoidable but we should not seek out killing for the joy of killing. We all eat meat but that does not mean we all have to work in an abattoir.

 

I can't help but wonder what will happen if sometime in the future it is a conservative who is the minority victor.

The EC was designed to prevent runoff voting among multiple candidates. It assumed there would be no political parties, which most of the Founding Fathers opposed.

 

This isn't really a solution.

It's already a $250,000 fine and up to 10 years imprisonment for merely being in possession of a gun if you're a convicted felon.

You have no idea of the scope of wildlife management in the US.

Using them "recreationally" doesn't make them toys.

You've obviously never hunted. I don't know any hunters who kill for the joy of killing.

 

10years isn't enough

There's not enough of that either

What does it make them?

Yeh, they're usually doing it for the cold, wet, and early hours, Oh, and lots of whiskey, why can't you drink at home like alcoholics should?

If it's to eat then pate'd foie gras is a bargain when you compare it to the cost of hunting.

Bullshit, you're out there to kill something and purely for that perverted joy. Arguing you're not is just proof of how good you are at self-delusion (and explains a LOT of conservative politics

 

How long should someone be in prison for possessing a firearm illegally?
Guns are weapons, and using them in competition, target practice and hunting doesn't make them toys.
I've never been around anyone drinking or getting high while hunting or using weapons. Yes, you get cold, and sometimes wet, and getting up early is sometimes necessary. For me it's the comraderie, the outdoors, and eating free range, no hormone added organic meat. If you've never had elk, you don't know what you're missing.

I get no joy from killing, and the fun is over the instant the trigger is pulled.

I'm not a conservative.

 

25 to life if you've been convicted of violent crimes before. I've never had a gun pulled on me but I've been told it's not really a small thing, that you don't get over it quickly and some people never do. You shouldn't do that to someone at all.

Competition, targetry and hunting are all "recreational" activities. Guns are toys.

I've had elk, it made me sick. Anything that tastes "gamey" should remain that way and isn't fit to eat IMO. (Read up on chronic wasting disease too, just for your edification.)

If the fun is over when you pull the trigger then why in god's name do you pull it? You may not be conservative but that attitude is surely a major reason why I'm not one; this idea that we're most happy when we're miserable is just bollocks to me

 

Do you not attempt anything difficult in your life? Do you not feel any reward for hard work? I've got a buddy who hunts solo, and will hike out 5 miles four times with 100 lbs on his back after shooting an elk.

No, guns are not toys. Competition, target shooting and hunting are all legal activities according to the Democrats who wrote the Gun Control Act of 1968.

What should the penalty be for threatening someone's life with a knife? Killing them with a knife?

What country do you live in?

 

So you want to live in a society where only the police and military have guns and where citizens have to be reeducated so they can be kept in line? Wouldn't that be a wonderful place to live!

 

A lightning rod?

 

Incorrect according to Pew Research less than 50% of Americans

Totally false.

Again false, it has been identified a total of 21 Russians donated a total of $2500 dollars to the NRA as sum hardly worth mentioning when compared to the NRA's budget of $325 million.

Also the NRA is not the lobby of the firearms industry, the NSSF is the lobby of the firearms industry.

Why would anyone have a firearm in a kitchen drawer, that is where the silverware is stored.

 

Such as?

 

Incorrect, the majority of firearm deaths are the result of criminals killing other criminals.

 

So what you are saying it's less expensive to let criminals roam free so they murder more people?

 

Your statement is an oxymoron, recidivism is the result of letting criminals out of prison.

 

So you are claiming law enforcement and military members are cowards?