The REAL Reason the Hard Left Supports Gun Control

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  1. rahl

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    By showing you what it isn’t? Lol ok.
     
  2. Xenamnes

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    Everyone else involved in the matter recognize registration and universal background checks when they see them. It is only yourself denying such.
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but this new form, where perfectly normal people suddenly go and massacre large groups anywhere and anytime is a new thing and its sudden and large growth is very concerning. Most other forms of sudden death by gunfire can be avoided. Frex, I can eschew going to the inner city in most circumstances without serious problem, but I can't avoid going to the mall, or the park, or the grocery store and I don't want to anyway.

    This is ridiculous as **** to me. I'm explaining why I don't want I or my loved ones to be randomly slaughtered by madmen to people who want to make it easier and easier for such madmen to kill them and me for no reason and THEY'RE the ones the government favors. **** this, we need a new government and it should be one where people who think I and people like me should be randomly killed by them and their crazy ass butt buddies will have a LOT less influence
     
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    No matter how hard you stomp your feet, they will not make acquisition/disposition logs a registration.
     
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    Correct. It doesn't matter because those dead white guys knew that with a straight popular vote, smaller states would be run roughshod over by larger states, and thus, removed the popular vote from the equation.
    This was proven sound by the 2016 election.

    But, you knew that's what I meant.
     
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    So states have more rights than the country's population?
     
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    Get over it. The matter is not going anywhere so long as those who commit mass shootings are glorified by the media. Stop paying attention to them, cease mentioning their names and posting their faces for all to see, and perhaps future mass shooters will be disillusioned as a result.
     
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    Yes or no. Can the background check forms be used to determine which firearm was purchased by what individual, when the purchase took place, and where the individual currently resides?
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I see very few good ideas here, this is one.
     
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    No matter how hard you stomp your feet, they will not make acquisition/disposition logs a registration.
     
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    I know the problem is not guns...but what I said was "the PUBLIC believes it is about guns"...
     
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    If peckerwood declares a national emergency over his wall, then in the future a democrat president can declare a national emergency about gun violence. We don't know what the actions can be but the gun issue can get real without an amendment...
     
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    The people do not have a right to vote for President.
    They never have.
    How do you not know this?
     
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    Only those ignorant of the truth, or uninterested in same because it runs afoul of their political predispositions.
     
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    Oh - and abortion.
     
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    Then answer the question. If it is not a form of registration, there is no harm in answering either yes or no.

    Once again. Can the background check forms be used to determine which firearm was purchased by what individual, when the purchase took place, and where the individual currently resides?
     
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    A president of the united states who belongs to the democrat party could easily do such, regardless of what Donald Trump may or may not do. It is not required for him to initiate the legal precedent for it to be a possibility.
     
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    Not at all. I very much enjoy outdoor activities; especially throwing a pack on my back and disappearing into the mountains for a few days.

    Going somewhere I have to deal with a sea of humanity is not on my list of "fun things to do."
     
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    They could, if that information was collected and stored in a digital database but Congress passed a prohibition against doing that. However, transaction forms are collected and stored at an ATF facility that performs traces now.
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...al-non-searchable-gun-databases-explained-392
    If congress reversed its position on developing a searchable data base, these existing FFL records could provide the basis for establishing the beginning of a national registration system; a looming risk even today.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You don't ever want to take a walk into a park, where one of the main attractions is the built skyline? And now we're supposed to give that up, or become targets of sharpshooting madman?

    Or how about traveling on the Interstate?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.C._sniper_attacks

    How you gonna shoot back and "become your own First Responder" then?

    I'm sorry, but your Rambo fantasies just don't cut it anymore. They're infantile and silly when you try and apply them to actual situations that have occurred.
     
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    "Cuz when the Lizard Men take over the first thing that's gonna happen is Hillary's Anti-Christ minions will COME LOOKIN' FER YER GUNS

    You guys are truly a ****ing TRIP.
     
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    I’ve answered it, repeatedly. Asking the same moronic question over and over and over and over again isn’t gonna to change the answer.
     
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    Simply because it is not the type of registration that easily facilitates the confiscation of legally owned firearms, does not mean the background check forms are not a form of registration.

    Even if they could not be classified as such, the united states government is devoid of a legitimate reason to be maintaining a list of legal firearm owners, who by their nature are individuals who are not going out and committing crimes. If anything the only sort of list government is authorized to maintain is one of known offenders and prohibited individuals.
     
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    It of course means it is not registration.
     
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    Even if they could not be classified as such, the united states government is devoid of a legitimate reason to be maintaining a list of legal firearm owners, who by their nature are individuals who are not going out and committing crimes. If anything the only sort of list government is authorized to maintain is one of known offenders and prohibited individuals.
     

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