Trump is innocent, according to Rosenstein

That was a Rasmussen poll. Rasmussen is always six to ten points higher in Trump's approval rating than other highly respected polls. For that reason it is Trump's favorite poll. RCP is an average of the major polls, including Rasmussen. For that reason RCP is a far more accurate poll than Rasmussen. It's poll shows Trump's approval at 41.6% and disapproval at 54.6%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

I noticed you avoided the evidence against Trump. That's alright. All of Trump's fans do that.

 

You won't get a Trump fan to answer that question.

 

Well the mainstream media reports 95% negative against Trump. Why wouldn't one think polls could be biased also? We just speak out against the swamp and it drives you nuts!

 

Speculation by the Trumpers so far has proven fruitless.

 

You don't seem to understand. If the polls are negative when it comes to Trump, that is because that is how Americans feel. Don't blame the polls if all they are doing is reflecting the truth about how Americans feel.

It is like Trump's accusation of "fake news." All the media does is report accurately what Trump does and says. Trump calls this "fake news" but he never explains what is fake. He just says it.

That is also true of Trump's fans. They express negative characterizations, but rarely provide an explanation for their comments. They think saying something makes it true.

"We just speak out against the swamp and it drives you nuts!" Don't embellish your own importance. Did you learn that from Trump?

 

On the mainstream Media you hear nothing positive about anything accomplished by this administration. Just as we don't with you. It is obvious you both have an ax to grind.
Now the media is going to get their butts sued by the propaganda smear campaign against Covington Catholic School boys waiting for a bus. They can sue for libel because they are private citizens and minors. Your left wing media and Bill Mahr stepped over a line they do all the time with President Trump.

 

What is the cause and what is the effect? You seem to have it backwards.

How do we know that? You never challenge my posts concerning Trump. You ignored the post that contained evidence of Trump's collaboration with Russia and obstruction of justice. Your replies always focus on me.

In other words, there is a reason why there is so much negativity regarding Trump. It is not the fault of the media or me for reporting it. You and other Trump fans are solid proof of that.

 

Well you think your evidence of collusion and obstruction is fact but then again you think you know more than anyone else so of course my focus is on you. You are the one that makes the claim before there is a hearing or even before Mueller ends his 2-1/2 year investigation. If he had the evidence, it would be enough to conclude. I have maintained your delusions will not pan out. Employment is at an all time high....you ignore that. Korea is not firing missiles in the Sea of Japan....you ignore that. Syria is practically devoid of ISIS occupied territory.....you ignore that. Food Stamps handouts are far considerably less....you ignore that. Perhaps right now negotiations with Taliban leaders might enable the withdraw from Afghanistan...you will ignore that. NATO Nations are pledging to pay their fair share....you ignore that. So many things you and the media choose to ignore because you hated the man since the day he defeated Hillary Rodham Clinton!

 

My evidence of conspiracy and obstruction is fact. Please explain what part of this evidence is not fact. Be specific this time. Your generalizations are meaningless.

BTW, this doesn't even scratch the surface of what Mueller has.

No less than nine of Trump's close associates have connections to the Russian government or were involved in concealed payoffs. One was the former chief of the DOJ. One is his former NSA. One is a former campaign manager. One was a former deputy campaign manager. One was his personal lawyer for ten years. Another one is his son-in-law, and another is his son.

In December 2016, Mike Flynn made a deal with the Russian ambassador for Trump, the elected President. Try to imagine private citizen Flynn doing that all on his own.

We know of at least one occasion where his son, son-in-law, and his campaign manager met with representatives of the Russian government at Trump's home, Trump Tower, to gain an advantage in the election. Put all this together, and it is extremely unlikely the hands-on manager did not know what was going on.

Trump has been accused of obstruction of justice. This charge is related to his firing of the FBI director. At the time, the FBI was actively engaged in the Russian probe.

In May 2017 Trump met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office. He had this to say about the firing of James Comey, his FBI director.

"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." "I'm not under investigation," he added.

Trump appreciated the help from the Russians and WikiLeaks. “WikiLeaks! I love WikiLeaks,” Trump proclaimed at a Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, rally on Oct. 10, 2016. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said during a news conference in an apparent reference to Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

Why in the world would Trump be so foolish as to collaborate with the Russian government in a Presidential election? Is he really that naive?

One possible answer is, his hands were caught in the cookie jar. Evidence suggests that he was involved in money laundering with Russian interests. This further suggests that Putin knows about it, and he is extorting the President.

Why, on a number of occasions, Trump encouraged the Russians and WikiLeaks to involve themselves in the election is a question no one can answer and suggests extreme naiveté on Trump's part, or a strong belief that he is above the law -- the law does not pertain to him. Who knows, but it was stupid.

Time reports, "Testimony to the U.S. Congress by the head of a political research firm indicates that the Trump Organization’s sales of properties to Russian nationals may have involved money-laundering.

“Transcripts reveal serious allegations that the Trump Organization may have engaged in money laundering with Russian nationals. Patterns of buying and selling were suggestive of money-laundering."

One important factor that we all must keep in mind. Trump never does the dirty work. He gets others to do it for him. Picture Trump calling the Russian ambassador to make a deal in December 2016. Never happen, right. So, claiming that Trump never collaborated with the Russians or did not know about the activities of his son, son-in-law, campaign manager, and personal lawyer on his behalf is meaningless and useless as a defense tactic. Trump is responsible for what the Trump campaign did in his name.

 

You have spent an awful lot of time in personal investigation against Trump and your investigation all is based on Left Wing Media sound bites. You do not mention the firing of Comey was recommended by Rosenstein. Comey had many violations that warranted his firing. The big tip off here is that you NEVER put so much effort into the fact Hillary lied to Congress, stole and deleted evidence of thousands of e-mails from a private server on which she had placed classified documents. That did not so much as ruffle a hair on your head. She, with the help of Obama, had the Dept. of Justice, as well as the FBI in the tank as evidenced by the biases of Stroyk and Page as revealed in their e-mails.....an insurance policy? Scrubbed e-mails?....What with a cloth or something???? No she used an expensive bleach bit program and very intent on what she did! Your credibility went right down the tank with me when you showed no concern over these allegations with direct evidence yet you jump right on the media bandwagon and throw cover for a leftist cause. Eric Holder described himself as Obama's wing man, yet Trump's own man recused himself of EVER defending him. You don't see any injustice in any of this and that is why I have paid little attention to anything you say. Donald Trump has overcome great odds from those of you that have attacked him from the day he caught you all with your pants down on election day 2016. I saw the great humor in Trump's suggestion that "perhaps Russia could help find Hillary's e-mails" our own Dept. of justice wouldn't pursue it.. Holder was running cover for that! You try and twist that humorous remark into a conspiracy! All the while Hillary had Russian spies working on a false dossier!! How disgusting. Accusing others of what you yourself is involved in.

 

Trump has been accused of obstruction of justice. This charge is related to his firing of the FBI director. At the time, the FBI was actively engaged in the Russian probe.

In May 2017 Trump met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak in the Oval Office. He had this to say about the firing of James Comey, his FBI director.

"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off." "I'm not under investigation," he added. Was he joking?

"You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won," Trump said in the interview with Lester Holt on national television. Was he joking?

This isn't about Clinton.

Or Holder. You are trying to change the subject. Why? Weakness of your argument?

So, Trump is joking again? I don't think anyone was laughing, including Trump. Supposed sarcasm which is too close to the truth is more truth than sarcasm. If he was joking, seeking help from a hostile foreign nation, it is an incredibly stupid joke for a candidate for President.

You have absolutely no idea what Mueller is pursuing. No one does.

Is that it? You left a lot out. You must be accepting the truth of the evidence against Trump, and that hardly scratches the surface.

Now you are criticizing me for being thorough? What did the media get wrong? Be specific.

Why do you support Trump? Your defense of him is pathetic.

But you tried. That is more than 99% of his fans have done. They don't even try. This thread proves it. This evidence has been posted three times on this thread. There have been 418 views. You are the only one to try to defend Trump. That, too, is pathetic.

 

Where are your friends? All the others have given up. They are busy talking about radical Democrats and their radical liberal agenda as if they were somehow important. Trump's fans do not want to talk about Trump.

 

The whole point is....your efforts and accusations are PARTISAN!!

 

You mean....where are the other American Patriots? They are probably challenging the other leftwingers that have declared Socialism is the wave of the future. Yours is fastly becoming a "dead issue".

 

Trump is incapable of testifying in the Mueller probe!

Who is saying that? Trump's former defense lawyer, John Dowd.

He said, "the president would become confused and make a false statement."

“In my questioning him or talking to him, you know, first question, easy. Second question, easy. Third question, he wasn’t sure. And he doesn’t like being unsure. So he’ll guess,” Dowd said of his interactions with Trump. “There’s your trap, right there. It’s not whether he lies or not. . . . It’s not a matter of integrity. It’s overload.”

Dowd is trying to provide a pathetic excuse for Trump's lying. The fact of the matter is, according to Trump's own lawyer, Trump is incapable of telling the truth. That is why he won't be testifying.

Another Trump lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, has the same concerns about Trump's lying. He warned about Mueller’s intentions in questioning the President. “What they’re really trying to do is trap him into perjury, and we’re not suckers.” Giuliani also said, "Truth isn't truth."

Imagine that. Two of Trump's lawyers are telling us our President can't tell the truth.

 

Trump's fans do not want to talk about Trump. So they concentrate on left wing extremism like socialism, AOC, and the green new deal because they are easy targets. For the most part, Trump's fans are the only ones talking about radical left wing ideas, not leading Democrats and not the media.

 

Lawyers specialize in trapping anyone into a lie. Then they raid the home with a Swat team, That is how the left operates except when it is Hilary telling the lies. You are purely partisan.

 

Trump fans talk about the great economy, people off of food stamps, Nato paying their fair share and a lot of other things you WILL not talk about.

 

An innocent person has nothing to fear from prosecutors.

Do you know anything different?

 

Well, anytime a person is driven to the kind of hatred we see towards trump, by the losing team, it appears they would be as you mentioned. It emotion driven, making it impervious to logic, reason, rationality and fairness.

You see lots of that here and other forums. And of course in social media. Political hearts worn on the sleeves. But sometimes it leads into nonsense, and this has happened since trump beat hillary.

 

Yes I do. I do know that Roger Stone has not been found guity of anything Hillary didn't do. We have a two tier justice system now and it is slowly changing. That is what has the left FRANTIC! Peach foty fi, Peach foty fi!

 

I got over the election two years ago, and now I am having fun writing about Trump. However, it seems you haven't forgotten the election.

Over and over again Trump's fans claim that criticism of Trump is based on hate. That is ludicrous, but they say that in a vain attempt to weaken the criticism. Why? The criticism is warranted and you can't defend Trump. You can't question what the critic says, so you tee off on the critic and say he/she must hate Trump. That is a remarkably stupid comment to make.

 

you hated him on the day he took office. It has just grown like a fine wine.

 

That's ridiculous, and I notice that you never challenge my statements regarding Trump. Your focus is always on me.

 

Well it must be a slam dunk there Sandy. I would expect to see him removed from office very soon if all you say is true. Of course we do have a two tiered justice system in America. Lefty's don't even get investigated. What about the abuse we know of in the FISA court? You get a Fisa warrant based on Partisan Russian spy information that has been largely debunked?