A RECORD 7 Million plus Americans 3 months late on car payments.

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    That goalpost looks heavy - you better find some friends to help you move it.
     
  2. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that's how behavioral economics works. It is based on averages, not on individual behavior that you deem acceptable because it may be responsible or not. In the same way, you can say that car makers are really behaving irresponsibly by selling vehicles that the average consumer cannot afford, with full knowledge that they are eroding their own future profits with non-sustainable expensive car sales. Oh wait, that exact thing happened before 2008 and led to the great recession.

    You can dream about people being responsible all you want, it is not going to happen. Same as lecturing about contraception by abstinence is not going to make people abstinent.
     
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    Actually, the average monthly total cost of ownership is $706 per month. That makes this calculation even worse. And that's just one car, whereas the typical family has two. How is it done? By longer and longer car loans. Not sustainable!!!
     
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    Tell it to the repo man
     
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    I didnt hear you crying about access to more debt 10 years ago. Why the FED saved the world by adding trillions in debt, remember?
     
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    Yeah that's Donald Trump's fault and not the same sub prime lending practices that caused the real estate crash in 2008.

    With companies like drive time.

    No it's all Trump
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Leftists should pay their bills.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah. With their parents, apparently.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I should have invested in starting up a car repossession company.
     
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    And a high density of restaurant server jobs
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a hilariously bad take.

    "The man" isn't making you borrow money, or spend it on things that you can't afford.

    Not paying your bills is a personal failing, regardless of the "state of the economy".

    Leftists: always looking to blame someone else for their own stupidity.
     
  12. TOG 6

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    It stems from hyper-partisan bigotry and abject ignorance - what do you expect?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the real reason leftists talk about "the man", "patriarchy", "racism".

    They always need to be a victim, and they must never be personally responsible.

    It's how they maintain what's left of their sanity.
     
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    I will guarantee you it's not just leftists who are late with their auto loan payments.
     
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    It's the President's fault idiots won't pay their bills? Do you really need him to come to your house and write your check out for you?
     
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    Very true! They want to spend their money on activities and experiences rather than vehicles. And if they can live and work in big cities, perfect!
     
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    Time for another liberal approved Cash for Clunkers.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure.

    The people who want to be paid for not working, want everything handed to them, adore wealth redistribution, and start stupid threads blaming the government for people who don't pay their bills are great at paying their bills.

    Those guys are pillars of personal responsibility.

    Oh man, made myself laugh again.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    here's a perfect analogy for leftists:

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    Haha, that's very funny. It is probably mostly conservatives who take out 72 months car loans because they believe that Trump is winning for them and now they can afford to spend. If conservatives were financially responsible, as they proclaim, the average savings rate would be greater than a few %. I remember a conservative member of the forum (he doesn't post anymore) who bought a new RV because Trump made the stock market go up. That's the level of economic understanding that is displayed by the average folk, no matter whether conservative or liberal. So, spare us the "personal responsibility" spiel and that conservatives have it and liberals don't. It is just a right wing meme.
     
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    How do you know he didn't retire, cash in his 401k with the huge increase to his stocks, and buy the RV?

    This thread is living proof of how leftists think. Someone else is always responsible for their problems. Life isn't fair. These people have too much money. That guy is white and gets everything for free. My college should be free. I shouldn't have to go to work to make money. I should get free abortions whenever I want. Blah Blah.

    These are all leftist talking points, and all of them stem from their belief that they deserve more than they have, and that they shouldn't have to do anything to get it. People who do have things in life didn't get them from working hard, they got them because they're a different skin color.

    "It's not fair" is the slogan tattooed on what remains of every leftists prefrontal cortex.
     
  22. 61falcon

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    We just, until January, had a GOP stranglehold on all 3 branches of government during which they rolled back many of the regulations on banks,credit unions and payday lenders as well as mortgage restrictions.In essence they made it easier for the previously unqualified to borrow.As a result just like when the same thing was done under BUSH,we will see more foreclosures and seized autos and lenders getting in financial trouble.
     
  23. Quantum Nerd

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    Read the thread I recently created on "what are your incentives to work hard". That may give you some insight, instead of projecting your stereotyped image of "leftists" that you have created in your mind.
     
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    A bit of data which by itslef tells us absolutely nothing. Where's the rest of the story? New car, used car, or both? How many such loans have been written over the last two to three years? Why are they behind. What percentage of the loans written are behind is that a record? Is the percentage low or average? Wait we don't from the article know any of these answers ergo the data set by itself is meaningless and can't honestly be used to support anything. But the the truth never matters t leftists anyway.
     
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    Didn't happen.
     

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