McCabe: There were 25th Amendment discussions at DOJ to remove Trump from office

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I want to offer you the same opportunity to treat Trump the same way you expected of Obama. Can you do that?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The wire was not used but the very idea the FBI even discussed this with each other shows a remarkable fashion of trying to pull a coup against the president. Pretend you would be outraged had it been done to Obama.
     
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    Maybe we need an investigation? Why would he have to wait till after he gets elected?

    Maybe it involved kick backs for russias allie Iran?
     
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    This is where the whole Putin puppet meme came from. Democrats accuse trump of being putins puppet to cover for Obama being putins puppet.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually there never was a reason to try to connect Trump to crimes vis a vis Russia. Mueller soon will prove it and the angry Democrats will want his hide on display. They have counted on something coming to light.
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    Russians are accused of election meddling.

    None of them are accused of working for Trump nor with Trump.

    The rest scooped up by Mueller are not related to elections nor to meddling on the part of Russians at all. Tax issues is a favorite by Mueller.

    We then have the legal problem of convictions. So far all convictions have been driven by non Russian meddling of any kind.
     
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    After watching Trump lie, beat his chest, and otherwise do his petty little man act in front of the world, the 25th Amendment is sounding more and more like a good idea, unlikely as it is to actually happen.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is so audacious, only Democrats believe it has a chance to turn out to be true. They of course excuse Obama though we have video plus audio proof.
     
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    Democrats do not even have 12 words connecting Trump to election crimes yet they strut as though they proved something did happen by Trump.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When Obama was busted, he thought he was not on open mike.
     
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    If trump was caught on hot mic making Putin secret promises he would of lost. Democrats have been selling America out to Russia for decades so when Obama did it they gave him a total pass. Didnt phase them one bit.
     
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    That is just plain ridiculous!

    That Trump's busineses were heavily in debt to Russian oligarchs was never a secret. Anyone who kept up with the business pages or commercial real estate, has known that for two decades.

    And, while none of them have been accuses of working for Trump, it is very clear that the Trump people were eager and anxious to work with them.

    And, now that it has been revealed that Donald Trump's oldest and closest advisor lied about contact that he did have with Russian intelligence officals, and Wikileaks......the connection is all but sworn to.
     
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    So Bluesguy's objection in saying "and to facilitate that by having the Deputy Directory of the FBI to bug the President by wearing a wire to try and entrap him" was just his words. Now let's see you prove this was seriously discussed as an actual possible plan, and not just a sarcastic and snide remark that Rosenstein or "the Deputy Directory", whatever that is, is well known for. Go ahead. I'll wait . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
     
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    Ok that's a nonsensical personal opinion. Next?

    That's false info. But I'm content to wait for Mueller's report.
     
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    Tom, when will you learn that words do not prove a thing. We read daily the false claims by Democrats who work with the Media and who also hate the way FOX news exposes the lies. So rather than prove a truth, they traffic in lies.

    We know nothing about Trump and Russia. We only heard that he had an interest in a commercial property in Russia and that deal collapsed.

    For a wealthy person to agree to work in a country alleged to be a dictatorship, the wealthy would need to have safety guaranteed for his projects. We may learn later that trump did not get any guarantee so simply walked away.
     
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    Actually my commentary is the product of an enormous amount of time spent both as a then loyal Democrat followed by a vacuum then a joining to the republicans. But one thing i promise, i studied your flawed way of thinking a lot. And it never became truth.

    Mueller's report should be about Russia. The fact is FACEBOOK that is the actual source of the so called meddling never claimed Trump nor his people were involved with Russia nor FACEBOOK
     
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    Sounds to me as if you think professionals at FBI must traffic in sarcasm. Funny how that is never pondered by Democrats as what trump does too.
     
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    Obama wore black angels wings per Democrats. And they loudly approve virtually every act he took. They defended the crimes of Holder. They at first despised Comey then came to love him. Funny how that flipped on it's head.
     
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    So you have nothing. I knew that.

    The conversation in question was not a formal FBI discussion. It was a casual, sarcastic comment.
     
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    Many leftists are truly mentally ill. I look forward to this lady screaming again in January 2021. Does she work for the FBI or DOJ?
     
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    If certain members of the FBI or the DOJ were under the impression that a leading candidate for POTUS was compromised or in cahoots with criminals from a foreign power, I commend these people for taking whatever action they deemed appropriate to protect the interests of the US. That appears to be the case here in regards to Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Rosenstein, Mueller Ohr and all of those who have been chastised and accused by Trumps lackeys in Congress like Nunez, Gohmert, Jordan and in the media like Hannity, Limbaugh and the rest. If they are the criminals you and the above mentioned lackeys say they are, I am sure that Trump’s hand appointed AG will indict them. However if as I suspect they acted reasonably he will not. I predict that NONE of these people will be prosecuted as they were acting in defense of America. We will see who is right in due time.
     
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    That's the rub they had nothing about trump and Russia get real. The only thing they did was start an investigation because their boss got fired. We've seen the texts we've seen all the bs evidence and this was a failed attempt to overturn an election.
     
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    Then I am sure that Trump’s handpicked AG will arrest all of them for treason, right? If not, we will all know that Hannity, Limbaugh, Alex Jones and the rest of the Trumpbots are just blowing it out their asses as usual. We’ll see.
     
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    No my friend, she’s already committed. One can only scream so much.
     
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    Well, apparently about 32-35% of Americans are also mentally ill.
     
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    You have a serious case of political delusion if you actually believe any of that ridiculous tripe!

    Fox Noise hasn't "exposed" anything, and rarely ever does. It is the video propoganda arm of the Trump Administration. No one, outside its fawning, poorly informed and uncritical audience even thinks of them as any sort fo a news organization. i actually can't remember them breaking a real news story. But they do spend a lot of time race baiting, promoting right wing memes (false or not) and freely editorializing on a constant basis.

    From the bottom up:

    "We know nothing about Trump and Russia. We only heard that he had an interest in a commercial property in Russia and that deal collapsed."

    This is false, and easily discredited too.

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1996-11-05-9611040460-story.html

    This alone discredits your "we know nothing" claim.

    But it does prove my point that anyone who read newspapers was well aware of Trump's long term business associations with Russians.

    Your claim depends on the definition of "we".

    If by "we", you mean the people who watch Fox News, get their politics from AM right wing talk radio, and who read trashy right wing tabloid blogs like Gateway Pundit and Breitbart, your "we" probably knew nothing. Trump trash media does not report these things, but it does megaphone Trump's constant lies about these things.

    Your second point is just plain made up nonsense.

    As I documented above, building a Trump Tower Moscow has long been a dream for Trump for some reason.

    You see that he first pushed a deal in 1996. He would do so again in 2005 with Felix Sater, and fail. Sater will re emerge as a player in setting up the Trump Tower meeting, and compromising the Trump campaign with their enthusiastic participation.

    Trump was trying again in 2012.

    And he started pushing a Trump Tower Moscow deal just about the time he ran for President. He apparantly thought that being a presidential candidate would give him status to push the deal. He went so farp s to offer Putin a bribe in the form of a $50 million penthouse condo in the proposed building (I'll bet Rush didn't tell you that, either).

    Contrary to your false claim, Trump didn't abandon the project. The Russians abandoned Trump.

    They were clearly never much interested in the deal from the beginning. But they have diddled Trump over it for twenty years.

    I doubt that they ever could figure out why Trump has been so fixated on a Trump Tower Moscow.

    After all, when your business depends on having tenants who are using your buiildings as vehicles for money laundering, it doesn't make much sense to build a tower in a country that people generally want to launder money OUT of.

    But Trump isn't very smart. He's a poor businessman (as his history clearly shows) and a really terrible negotiator (he just suffered the biggest legislative defeat that any sitting President has suffered in twenty years, and this isn't the first one).

    The Russians know that. He's a great vehicle for thier campaign to weaken American influence in the world (with Trump's active and enthusiastic participation), divide the Western alliance (again, a core Trump foreign policy idea), divide pubic opinion, and weaken US institutions and undermine the rule of law and faith in things like the Constitution (Trump did all of these things on Friday morning).

    And, we know that the Trump Administration has fought against any attempt to curtail Russian influence and cyber attacks on the United States. Trump clearly feels he needs the Russian bot machine and their intelligence assets to help him get re elected in 2020.

    You should think about that.
     
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