Is the Right aware of how illegal immigrants benefit this country?

Who does? And how did you come by this amazing power to read minds?

 

Which is 40% of America. If you can't even demand that the country speak one language, do you really have a country anymore? Do you think people who can't speak English are going to have anything approaching success in the world? If you wanted them to succeed, you would demand that they learn the language as well.

Believe me, conservatives DESPERATELY want immigrants to be successful. The fact that immigrants and their children are increasingly not successful is a source of great concern. If enough people come in that take more than they contribute, the entire house of cards will crumble and America will finally be a part of suffering that it has not known for generations.

 

You want to repeal the First Amendment? Good luck with that.

 

Who told you that? Immigrants today are assimilating just as those before them did.

 

You are so far off the truth, it's astounding.

 

If you quantify 63% of non-native residents on public assistance as beneficial to America then your metric for success is different than mine. Do you think a nation already drowning in 22 trillion dollars of debt can sustain this kind of drain over a sustained period of time?

https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

 

Do you realize how broad a term "public assistance" is? Do you realize that by the second full generation over 90% of immigrant households are using English at their primary or sole means of communication in the home? By the third generation you would not be able to tell who's family got here first no matter how much you might dislike this or that type of person.

 

Is this good enough reason?

 

How about this?

https://www.facebook.com/Fight4sanity/videos/348511839299233/

 

Pretty weak "evidence".

 

An obvious question. How does gov't know what illegal aliens are paying in? Last I heard, we don't even know exactly how many are here, so we guess.

 

If someone is 'illegal', they do not have a 'legal' Social Security number. They stole someone's identity, which means the person they stole the identity from will be held responsible for the income taxes attached to the income reported by the employer. Then the person that has had their identity stolen gets to spend the next 12-18 months straightening things out with the IRS and various other creditors, after possible issues with things like threats to have their home levied, wages garnished, etc, I am sure that they will be more than happy to accept more illegal immigrants into this country. Oh, and once they do get things straight with the IRS, the SS and MCare taxes that were paid, will no longer be credited to anyone's account, and go into the general funds.

Perhaps you need to actually do so research on what happens when someone's identity is stolen.....

 

I doubt that the left cares about the inconveniences to mere individual citizens. More money to government is a win for them.

 

You don't know what the conversation is about and yet you conclude that I'm claiming some "mind reading"???

Read the thread!

 

Well let's just open the borders and balance the budget then!

Well even more reason and we can just kick our citizens back to their country and we will be so much better off. BTW what is your source for the crime rate of White Supremacist, FBI Uniform Crime Statistics? Or what?

 

No. I'm talking about his hard core base. Those who would stand by him even if he stood in the middle of the street and shot somebody. Probably about 30%

Who are you talking about? Who has a country? Are you looking for everybody to speak Cherokee?

There are many people in the world who don't speak English who have been pretty successful. But the most successful people in the world are those who speak several languages. So if you want Americans to be successful you should be fighting for everybody to learn 3 or more languages.

Where in the world did you get the idea that immigrants and their children are not successful?

Let me guess: Sean Hannity. Am I right?

 

Why would we have to know how many are here to estimate how many pay in?

 

My kids speak and write three languages (German, Spanish and English). I recognized the value of being multi-lingual very early.

I have posted data showing how immigrants are not doing that well... specifically the majority of them are on on public assistance (63%). I have also posted data showing how immigration changed California from being the state with the near lowest poverty rate in 1969 to the state with the highest poverty rate (near 25% now, around a quadrupling of the poverty rate) and how most of those in poverty are immigrants or the children of immigrants. I have also posted data showing how California public schools are performing near the bottom, how their quality of life is at the bottom, how their air pollution is at the bottom, how it has the greatest percentage of people who are homeless, etc....

I would like an explanation of how the most progressive state in the union isn't doing a thing to ensure that those immigrants lead successful middle class lives instead of just putting them on a welfare train (or poverty labor train) to nowhere but misery (for them now and for the country in the future). It seems rather indefensible to me.

 

Baseless assumption. IRS will be happy to take their money even without a legal Social Security number.

 

There are many sources for violent crime rates carried out by hate groups. Which you would probably never hear of if you belong to one. But here is one in an easy to understand chart.

 

So you want your children to learn other languages, but you demand that the country speak only one.

Not only do they do well. They make the rest of American do better also.

Immigrants need assistance at first. But once they are part of the system, they fuel progress. And this only gets better generation after generation. This has been the case since the founding of this country. The first Pilgrims were poorer than the natives.

Taking an arbitrary point in time, and an arbitrary group of immigrants in an arbitrary region is what the racist forces in our society have always done to try to promote a xenophobic sentiment in the population.

There is enormous amount of literature about how beneficial immigration is. Here is one

https://immigrationforum.org/articl...ugees-are-a-fiscal-success-story-for-america/

 

Well no I can't read your chart and you gave no link but there are relatively few violent crimes committed by hate groups even as that is broadly defined. There are thousands of crimes and deaths due to illegal immigrants but one is too many since they shouldn't be here in the first place. So again

BTW what is your source for the crime rate of White Supremacist, FBI Uniform Crime Statistics? Or what?

 

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If it only gets better generation after generation, can you explain why Mexican Americans are 92nd on the list of immigrants by income (only 4 are lower)? They are largest group of immigrants coming in. My thought is that it is purposeful, that Democrats are intentionally taking steps to ensure that they do not succeed and become dependent on public assistance. I do not credit Democrat support for low skilled Mexican immigration to altruism in the least, I credit it to a transparent power grab. If you can't convince Americans that live here to vote for you.... simply import groups that do not do as well... blame other groups for their lack of success... and then rack in the votes.

I would love to see your opinion of immigration from Mexico if they voted 70% Republican and were middle class. Pretty sure it would be Democrats crying for a wall if that were the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

 

Baseless response. Your attempt at validating an illegal action as somehow being 'good' shows your position clearly....