Trump Jr. to young conservatives: Don't get indoctrinated by these loser teachers pushing socialism

My point is, in both cases (church and school) you indoctrinated your kids before giving them a "choice". It's your right, your the parent, but it makes you wonder what problem is. You don't want your kids to have a point of view other than yours?

 

And to paraphrase P.J. O'Rourke, if you think health care is expensive now, wait 'til it's "free".

 

But it's not.

That's why people living in the capitalist democracies in the West had a higher standard of living and than the unfortunate people who lived in the socialist dictatorships of the East.

That's why the capitalist democracies of the West are still around and the socialist dictatorships of the East are not.

That's why we're celebrating the 30th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall this year.

You lost this argument thirty years ago, comrade - it doesn't matter if you recognize and acknowledge it or not...



...nor will waging class war in the Political Forum change that.

 

Historically no.

 

Most of Europe has a social democracy, which is what some want in the United States. No one is talking about nationalizing industries nor taking over the means of production, but a better safety net against the abuses of capitalism, does Martin Shkreli ring a bell

Besides, the US has been partially socialist since the 19th Century, no nation is pure socialist nor capitalist

 

They are highly capitalist and have moved from socialism more towards capitalism for a reason, capitalism offers more opportunity and economic freedom and success for the masses. If you want to see abuses just look to the socialist states that do exist.

 

Which is total BS, of course.

A current and notable example of people talking about nationalizing an industry and taking over the means of production would be the recent proposals by Democrats such as Kamala Harris and her disingenuously named "Medicare for All" proposal that would eliminate and nationalize the private health insurance industry.

Kamala Harris Vows to ‘Eliminate’ Private Insurance Market
https://news.yahoo.com/kamala-harris-vows-eliminate-private-151019771.html

Of course, Leftists outside government are talking about it, too:

We Don’t Need Private Health Insurance
https://www.thenation.com/article/we-dont-need-private-health-insurance/

The "progressives" on this board have been talking about "single-payer" and government-run HI and HC for years, too.

Of course, socialists don't have to nationalize private enterprises to control them, as the national socialists in Germany and elsewhere realized. Governments can just as effectively control private enterprise through government command and control of private enterprise, aka de facto government control.

Thank you, Captain Obvious, but we already knew that. The question confronting Americans is whether or not they want the socialists in this country to start imposing their socialist agenda on everyone through the nationalization or control of private industries, which will also result in increased government power and control over our personal lives and the further erosion of our individual freedom and self-determination. To put it in slogan form - More Government, Less Freedom.

 

You can have them. Us, we’d like to have these who are here legally.

 

Wait a minute, one person and an opinion piece now represents everyone who has mentioned socialist approaches to issues? And Harris is not in favor of single payer

Amazing me how little conservatives as yourself actually understand the socialism you are condemning, little clue of you, the US has been partially socialist since the 19th Century

 

Why should I pay more then you?

 

If they're teaching socialism is a good thing, they're losers.

Just like if they're teaching that the earth is flat. Just as dumb.

 

Yet, the Cold War was largely considered by both sides as a competition between free market capitalism and command & control socialism. Of course, it was and is more than a competition between economic systems, as Ronald Reagan and Pope John Paul II pointed out during the 1980s and President Trump pointed out in his recent SOTU address - it is also a moral struggle between individual freedom and authoritarianism.

 

She’s not just a person, she’s a Democrat presidential hopeful. And she’s not along. You Democrats have Spartacus, you have Pocahontas, you have an unapologetic crazy Socialist Bernie and you probably soon will have you prized leader joining in, someone who thinks that since banks have branches, money grow on trees and who just costed New York City 25,000 jobs and untold billions in revenue.

So... no, not just one person

 

Yeah, one person, and what you have is a seedy dirty old fat man who knows how to play his lemmings like a deck of cards

 

Hillary' not president
SCOTUS is stacked Conservative.
etc etc etc...

I like how Trump plays us, lemmings

 

No it wasn't, a theme, but not the main motivator, stopping Russian expansion was the major goal, well, unless you were a Bircher, then you saw Commies in the closet

 

SCOTUS has the same balance it had before Trump took office, and that is due to McConnell not Trump, and other than that, most of what you think Trump accomplished happened in spite of him, not because of Trump

Now should we list his blunders

 

No, my friend. SCOTUS will not make any more Liberal leaning decisions. And Trump is quietly replacing dozens of Liberal judges including Circut judges. Change is coming.

 

China was communist. NOT THE SAME

And by most PF RWers, none of them want to be like 'socialist' Europe.

 

Harris said she is in favor of eliminating private HI and the most famous response came from Starbucks CEO and possible presidential candidate Howard Schultz who accurately described her socialist proposal as "not American".

As I noted in my post, it's not just one Senator and one of the flagship publications on the Left - it's all the "progressives", including the ones who post here, who want the government to take over the private HI insurance industry. Of course, the government doesn't pay for anything, so that means taxpayers will get stuck with the $30+ trillion tab.

Amazing how you think repeating that ignorant remark will magically make it come true. Evidently, you're completely oblivious to the fact that conservatives and libertarians actually do understand the socialism we are condemning and have stated loud and clear that we don't want any more of it in this country. Now you know.

 

Really, must be they didn't get your memo,

"Supreme Court rejects Trump's asylum ban in 5-4 ruling as Chief Justice Roberts sides with liberal judges"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...rejects-trump-s-asylum-ban-5-4-ruling-n951051

 

Why are the little proggies trying to be coy?

If they're trying to be sneaky it's not working. Not a day in this forum goes by without some Lefty demanding the "right" to impose CommieCare on everyone...

 

You are still lost in the cliches, Medicare for all, single payer, a two tier system, and the ACA aren't blanketly pure socialized medicine, no one is talking about the Gov't taking over the Hospitals, putting doctors on salary, turning all health care into the VA, private insurance can have a role in any of those approaches

And most conservatives do not understand actually either economic systems, they are still caught in a Cold War mentality, which is the exact reason Bernie attracts so many younger people. I think the famous quote heard in South Carolina during the anti Obamacare Town Hall phrases it pretty well, "I don't want government-run health care, I don't want socialized medicine, and don't touch my Medicare."

Plus, the "Nation" isn't the flagship publication of the left

 

They can not help themselves.

 

Stopping the spread of communism was the main goal, regardless of whether the Soviets were pushing it in Europe, the Red Chinese were pushing it in Korea, the Cubans were pushing it in Latin America and Africa, or our own "progressives" were pushing it here at home.