I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    So? That's your opinion....doesn't make it the truth...
     
  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    My question was, what is more serious - depression, or risk of imminent death? Which one is sure to lead to death?
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Yes I want to ban abortion in the constitution. The punishment is only for going out of the states to get an abortion. In the states only the "doctors" would face punishment.
     
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    You didn't(couldn't?) answer my question:
    FoxHastings said:
    Does it?

    And that does NOT change the FACT that around the world mental disease is considered as serious as physical disease....the POINT I was making.""""

    What does your question have to do with it? Nothing.
     
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    Ya, but he has all that "real life" experience....ON DATING APPS !!:roflol::roll::roflol:
     
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    If you're too lazy to go back and read his disgusting posts then do NOT comment....it doesn't look like you're making sense....you shouldn't comment when you have no idea what you're talking about...
     
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    An if there is no doctor but a coat hanger or a woman somehow got an abortion pill?

    LOL so a woman that is carrying a child damn well better not take a chance of going on vacation to Cancun unless she is willing to take a chance of being charge with murder if she have a miscarriage while on vacation.

    footnote we are going to need to hired tens of thousands of investigators as roughly half of all pregnancies end in miscarriages.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    There is a simple way to prove it was not an abortion, surrender all medical records and receipts
     
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    How is medical records going to show a miscarriage from an abortion??????
     
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    Why should a government be responsible for what people do outside of its borders?
     
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    The fact that all over the world, late term abortion is only allowed if the woman is at risk of death, directly stemming from the pregnancy. So in those parts of the world, mental disease is NOT considered as serious as physical disease!
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    My real life experience is having lived in the US, Namibia, Nigeria and Canada and then NY, AZ, VA, MD, and MI yeah I think I have "life experience"
     
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    So we go from abortions to a sub class of abortions IE late abortions that is not at all common?
     
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    So in your travels had you set up onetime a household with a woman?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what you're asking.
     
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    I'm looking forward to you explaining the relevance of this!
     
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    You got to be kidding me the 'man' wish to limit the reproductive rights of all women without seeming ever likely being in a live in sexual relationship with a woman!!!!!!

    He wish to have husbands with veto rights over a woman having an abortion also without a clue it seems in knowing for himself the in an out of such relationships.

    Kind of similar to having a non pilot and non flyer expressing the best ways to get out of a flat spin.
     
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    Are you saying that people shouldn't take personal responsibility with sex?

    @Sackeshi, is this true?
     
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    Deciding as a couple or the woman alone for that matter to end or not to end a pregnancy is taking responsibility for the outcome of a sexual relationship.

    Next if our friend had been in a couple relationship he would likely had known that in most cases to have an abortion or not to have an abortion is likely a joint decision even those the woman rightly had the final say.
     
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    So most woman do take into account the wishes of the father? Its not just I don't want it so duck off. Then why so defensive about it if its likely that she would respect my wish to have the baby born.
     
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    Yes I support father veto laws for abortions. Only really controversial for women who don't give one iota about the fathers feelings.
     
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    What if the government didn't allow abortion to be part of the medical system? Would people be unable to live their lives?

    If the man wants her to have an abortion, but she doesn't and then gives birth and then they separate, should he have to provide financial support for the kid?
     
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    So what do you mean? Like the father has the final say? Surely not!
     
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    Can you support that? Do you know what the legislation said prior to the new bill? Or are you just saying stuff which you can't back up?

    It allows abortion for health reasons, not just in the case where the mother is at risk of death. Pretty simple really.
     
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    Hell you get on a plane an go somewhere that is more civil and as the rest of the Western world will think rightfully that we are crazy I can not see those nations giving the US any information to be able to bring charges on returning.

    Sadly the poor will go back to such means as coat hangers.


    Of course he would need to paid up as he does now for that matter as you can not force the woman to have an abortion anymore then to not have an abortion.

    Of course most couples in long term relationships have such matters in agreement long before it is needed on way or the other.
     
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