Gallup: Ocasio-Cortez Is Losing Favor With America

The more she believes she's fighting something,the harder she'll fight. Encourage her and her silly forum followers to spew, snipe, smear and insult until theirs hearts are content. Give them lots of reasons to respond. They won't disappoint.

 

Considering that she is the focus of trumpette attention and the target of all kinds of right wing social media bullshit, is it any wonder that her unfavorables are growing.

If she wasn't an effective voice, the right wouldn't be so worried about a rookie congresswoman too young to run for president.

Big scary latina with a big mouth and mean twitter skills.

 

I meant the presidential candidates. They're all for the a Green Deal except for one or two,

 

I dunno Jonsa. You look around this forum, you'll see that to a man the right here wants her to keep speaking because she says some pretty foolish stuff that makes the left look bad especially when they support her. Heck, there's even been a few Dems who say she's gonna help Trump get re-elected because her political immaturity is reminding independents of what the left stands for. And I can't exactly say she's that effective when her pet project - the Green New Deal - was rolled out with such silliness that she took down the FAQ awhile ago and we haven't seen it since. I'd say she's made more missteps than not, her latest comment being discussed in another thread - "What good are your thoughts and prayers?" - Even if you are an atheist, and I don't know if she is or not, but for a politician to say something that is pretty darn foolish because there's still a lot of her constituency that DOES believe in the power of thoughts and prayers. Someone reputedly as smart as she is wouldn't have said something as bone-headed as that.

And it isn't the right focusing on her. I mean, the media has regaled us with tales of her love for press-on nails. It was the media that made her a big deal, all the right is doing is knocking down the left's newest sacred cow.

 

40 Democrat house members supported getting rid of air travel? That should alarm you about what the Democrats in power really want. They want to destroy the country, which the new green deal would do.

 

I dont mind her rookie mistakes. I do like her incisive committee performance. I applaud the underlying objectives of her green new deal, even if the warm and fuzzies were over the top nonsense.

She got attention because when centered out by some on the right, she gave back way better than they tried to give. And she did it with style, which infuriated them good ol' boys something fierce.

And excoriating her for some inaccurate tweets is pretty damn rich of the RW these days.

 

And the GOP passed the Energy Act of 2005 which is why Oblama spent so much on alternative fuel sources and power production...Because it was the energy mandate from the GOP at the time...

 

That is what the whalers said about petroleum...

 

Rookie mistakes are one thing, but the overall foolishness while coupled with adoration from the left is just plain begging for it. And while - to a degree - I agree with some of the objectives of the NGD, the warm and fuzzy nonsense ended up invalidating her entire deal altogether. I mean, I'm pretty sure she said the "real" FAQ would be up soon after some unnamed staffer put up the "wrong" one - and it's been awhile now, where is it? These kind of optics don't play too well. The end result is that she's ended up looking like an incompetent boob.

I'll grant you that a firecracker like her has some pretty good comebacks - in many ways she reminds me of a VP in my school, a Puerto Rican from Joisey with an acerbic wit the kids know better than to argue with - but she's also been taken to task and made to look like a fool by many others. I definitely want to see her take up Ben Shapiro's offer to a debate someday. What was her response knowing Ben would annihilate her? Calling it similar to catcalling? I mean, gimme a break. She's good, but she knows when she's outclassed and many people out there can and do outclass her.

Hey, you won't find me defending Trump's use of Twitter and his inability to use spellcheck, but if the left can (correctly) call out Trump for his blunders, than the right can do so to members of the left as well, including Occasional Cortex. I have no problem with anyone being called out.

 

No, I believe she made a few miscalculations but she is way too shrewd not to learn from her mistakes. She is too far left on some things that will not become democratic platform planks and she's mainstream on others. I like outspoken broads who don't take crap from anyone... reminds me of my mother as a young firecracker.

Nah, she smart enough to not fall into bullshit traps by an experienced "talking head". And you are correct, she would be outclassed now, but give her a couple of years of experience and tutelage of Pelosi and she'll be able to take on the best. Talent with a desire to get better and make a difference has a way of maturing and bearing fruit.

I have no problem with calling things out when appropriate. But you excuse trump's deficiencies, even applaud them, nonetheless. I find that rather unbalanced to an absurd degree.

 

I was hoping her 15 minutes of fame would have lasted thru the 2020 elections.

 

It will. Hillary was not popular with the nation but the DNC and the leftist allied MSM did NOT get the message and so they continued to promote her to the hilt anyway. Ditto with this bimbo in legislative clothing. They won't give up on her.

 

I don't see any evidence of said shrewdness. It seems to me that she doubles-down when she makes errors. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

I'm also not convinced Pelosi wants to train her when it seems AOC is doing quite a bit to undermine Pelosi. If anything, I suspect Pelosi might be quietly maneuvering behind the scenes to teach this upstart a couple lessons in humility.

Also, please quote the posts where I've been excusing and applauding his deficiencies. So far as I can recall, I have said he's doing better than I thought he would be doing, but I also didn't have high hopes either - and that my support for Trump begins and ends with his not being Hilla.

 

This isn't helpful.

 

Yes, she isn't that bright. As far as the Trumpers are concerned hand her a mic and let her speak her mind!

 

Clinton and Pelosi aren't working out well as targets anymore. They need someone new to bash that is not sophisticated and patient enough to pick her moments and opponents, rather than allowing the moments and opponents to pick her. . So they have picked a couple of easy target freshmen women, one Hispanic and one Muslim and labeled them as our love children, and started to exploit them as the new red meat snacks for the RW attack dogs. RWers turn them into symbols of the left because they have no political filter, and are ideologically easily isolated. They turn what they say as the party line, and what they do as party policy.

its sort of what we Dems do using Trump and his tweets. The difference is that Trump is actually the standard-bearer of the party as President. He is politically well known and popular with the rank and file, and his stances are enshrined in adopted GOP platform of 2016 per the Republican national Convention. They want to turn this Ocasio-Cortez into our albatross. Americans can see the difference between the deification of Donald Trump by the GOP base for the past two years, and this freshman Representative with her untested voice and uncharted idealism who is the darling of a media driven campaign.

Look I am glad she is in the House that she has no filter and that she provides a glimpse into one strand of bold progressivist thought in my party. But she is nothing more in our party, and she is not likely to be, until she gains a decade of experience and a more pragmatic approach to politics.

 

I agree, I've been saying from day one that she's a gift to us. Keep talkin' Mrs. Cortez, your service is greatly appreciated.

 

Yes, she doesn't seem to be catching on that her gospel of socialism isn't selling.

 

"But it'll be different this time, trust me!"

 

She is a puppet put forth by the Justice Democrats. I don't think these people are stupid. Maybe there pushing these wacko candidates so that a less wacko candidate will look much better by comparison.

The uncontested absurdities of today become the slogans of tomorrow.

 

I think she represents a linchpin to a schism. As Republicans have moved to the left Democrats have struggled to be left of them. That has pushed them into communism and socialism which are basically two sides of the same coin.

A Democrat from 35 years ago would almost look exactly like Donald Trump.

 

Why is that? Is the GOP that pathetically weak in their own platform?

 

No, he doesn’t.

 

You make a great point

Obama and cortez are both empty suits

But he did manage to hide that fact from enough voters to get elected president

Hopefully cortez has reached her peak already

 

We have some of those to compare. These were the major figures in Democratic party politics of national prominence . If you think the tax and spend, environmental, education, and health and human resources, or foreign policies of Donald Trump look like those proposed by Gary Hart, Sam Nunn, Edward Kennedy, Tip O Neil, Jim Wright, Dick Gephardt, John Glenn, Walter Mondale etc look ANYTHING alike, you are insane. Don't even start on social issues.

The establishment GOP view has barely budged on anything except gay rights from the days of Ronald Reagan and George Bush pere. Its deficit hawks and constitutionalists have died off from despair and hopelessness. Only the lip service remains. Trumpism as a subset is more centrist on protectionism, and is less interventionist globally. Its actually much worse on race, the environment, and completely radicalized on immigration.

Trump does not even think about much policy at all. He's not especially bound by a consistent ideology or philosophy but some broad notions of what works in or for - business. What he actually does in office instinctively is , he asks himself what Obama did or would have done, and does the exact opposite - on almost every single issue or policy I have come across. Its very personal to him, this passion for ripping apart the black president's legacy. Very different response from Ford to Carter, Carter to Reagan, Bush to Clinton, Clinton to Bush, or Bush to Obama.

The establishment GOP nationally is less racist than in 1984 but its Trump voter base is more so. White and indifferent has been replaced by white and angry.

I do agree that the Democratic party has been moving to the left gradually since the great recession of 2008 and that its anti-establishment strain has allowed for some socialist ideas and candidates to move it faster rhetorically since Trump showed up.