Colorado Joins 11 States Agreeing to Shift to Popular Vote System

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Who are you to put words in his mouth? Speak for yourself and defend your own positions on their merits.
     
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    What does military bases have to do with anything and because of what group of people does Mississippi receive the most government aid and does that group vote overwhelmingly red or blue?
     
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    It is certainly not the GOP who have rolled out the red carpet for them.
     
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    I personally don't care if we switch to the popular vote, but that's not how elections are run in this country. You don't like the rules, change them before the election. You don't get to lose and then say "but I won if you measure the vote in this other manner".
     
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    yeah, how terrible of them making us the most powerful, freest, fairest nation on earth and putting the political power in the hands of the proletariat.
     
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    chingler Banned at Members Request

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    hrrrm, not to put too fine a point on it, but the electoral college gave us every president. :eekeyes:
     
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    Perhaps to most it could not matter but my first option is to stick only to the EC and tell people they are not voting nationally, but state wide. That is the truth anyway. But stop letting the media call it a popular vote.

    Lysander Spooner addresses voting in his excellent work called No Treason, the constitution of no authority. It can be pulled up on Mises and then downloaded into an audio book. Very worth listening to. Part II is discussing voting.

    Summary, it can only apply to the founders given it was their agreement among just themselves. One can't bind the future by agreeing to binding the future is the summary.
     
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    i've heard this before... we get the government we deserve.
     
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    First of all...Nothing from Breitbart is believable.

    Secondly....You have a problem with actual voters deciding elections?
     
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    Electoral college was invented for a reason. Commiefornia and NY cannot decide for the whole country. I'm sorry you guys can't win an election fairly but the system is this way for a reason and you can't change it because it's inconvenient for you at the time. DEAL!
     
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    The problem with the popular voting system which I used to think would be a good idea until doing research, California, New York, and Illinois which are democrat sanctuary strongholds would control how the country is run. This while they're constantly recruiting/luring people with freebie socialist programs and giving them ID'S to vote.

    In other words the democrats are trying to change the constitition to allow them to fraudulently steal all elections going forward.
     
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    Good luck, I hope you can wrestle your state back from the liberal fiends...
     
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    So....if you live in California....your vote DOES NOT count as my as someone's vote in Montana?

    You are good with that?
     
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    Very true and that's OBVIOUSLY why they want open borders and are luring illegals there with freebie programs.
     
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    Show any article from Breitbart that gets it wrong. In fact, compare CNN articles to those from Breitbart. See who is out to remove Trump.

    Try out this one. Dispute it.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...rump-would-disparage-heroic-honorable-mccain/

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    What I find so remarkable is how often Democrats rush to defend him.

    Was I happy that Trump talked as he did about McCain? NO and no republicans will admit we are, I think anyway. Was I happy at the way MCcain trashed GW Bush? No but nobody kept breaking his balls over it either.

     
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    "Commiefornia"? Really? Thanks for showing your hand.
     
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    And we have reporting treaties with almost every country that harbors such accounts including the infamous Cayman Islands.
     
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    Yeap that's how simple it is lol. Now tell us how hard it is to set up a corp overseas, pay zero to little taxes, and having all transactions go through that company it is? Just give you a hint very freaking easy, completely legal and you only have to pay taxes on what you pay yourself and your employees in the state. America has no tax claim to all that profit and this is what you don't understand.
     
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    I am not answering your first question, if you are too lazy to follow the thread and see that I was responding to a question that’s on you. As for the rest of your quote, almost 50% of state revenue is federal, the state as a whole is overwhelmingly red. Red states make up 4 out of 5 and 9 out of 10 of the state’s most dependent on federal aid.
     
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    McCain called the truth the truth....Trump is a classless pig....McCain gave GW a big hug when he ran against Obama.....Trump can't even show enough moral character to speak well if the dead.

    You Repubs who let Trump get away with his morality are just as guilty as he is.....TRUMPETTES!
     
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    My vote in Alabama does not count in California either. Your state votes for YOUR state's electors IF your state legislature allows you to vote for them. Has nothing to do with any other state and your vote counts in YOUR state as much as anyone else's in YOUR state.
     
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    Hell I am no more responsible than you are for the utter hate from the mouth, the pen and the internet about your sides hate in this nation.

    A good thing about the dead. And you must admit it. They are not around to read or hear of what Trump says.
     
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    I did go back to the list or best states to retire in link and nothing about military bases, if you are too lazy to answer oh well. Defense spending is not "government aid".

    And that federal aid is mostly what? Which demographic group does it mostly support and does that group vote overwhelmingly red or blue? If the Democrats want to eliminate that go ahead. Until then it is a moot point.
     
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    Why did he claim the voter in Montana has more clout?

    That state has less electors by far than CA has.
     
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    Have no idea and they STILL do not understand basic United States civics.
     
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