Who owns the sperm?

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  1. Renee

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    Then you are saying that women are just breeding machines
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Then Remove the 1/10 th of an ounce “baby” and tell me it’s idependent
     
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    What does that have to do with being part of the "woman's body"?
     
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    If you are contending that it isn't part of her body it is up to you to show that a fetus does not have to be inside a woman to grow.

    IF it's not part of her body then she has every right to take it out.


    If it's not part of her body it should be able to sit on a shelf and grow..
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Actually, its not up to me
    It is up to you to demonstrate that it is part of her body, since you claim it to be.
    So now, like the good scientist you are, you will present the evidence that either rejects or fails to reject your hypothesis.
    Thanks in advance!
     
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    If you are contending that it isn't part of her body it is up to you to show that a fetus does not have to be inside a woman to grow.

    IF it's not part of her body then she has every right to take it out.


    If it's not part of her body it should be able to sit on a shelf and grow..


    YOU COULD NOT DO THAT.

    How many fetuses do you know of that did not grow inside of a woman(besides in labs)


    ACTUALLY If you are contending that it isn't part of her body ( giant departure from fact and science) it is up to you to show that a fetus does not have to be inside a woman to grow.

    IF it's not part of her body then she has every right to take it out.


    If it's not part of her body it should be able to sit on a shelf and grow..


    Blue bolding is the part you can't/won't address.
     
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  7. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i.e. my logic must be wrong because if I'm right it will turn women into breeding machines?
    Therefore there must be something wrong in my argument?
     
  8. squidward

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    Wheres the scientific demonstration that it's her body? Have you given up already?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's interesting that Pro-Choicers just automatically assume that a man has signed over his sperm to the woman when he ejaculates into her, but deny that a woman automatically signs over any rights when she lets a man ejaculate into her.

    (rights the father may have over his fetus, not to mention rights which the fetus may be entitled to)
     
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  10. FoxHastings

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    Well, duh, ya, because they're not the same thing...
    The father has no rights over the fetus and the fetus has no rights at all :)
     
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    Uh, the fetus is inside her body, she owns her body, therefore it's hers. Her heart and liver are hers, the fetus is hers..

    And you have NEVER proven it isn't even though you CLAIM that it isn't...



    Here's another question you can hide from:

    If it isn't her body then whose is it?

    If you are contending that it isn't part of her body it is up to you to show that a fetus does not have to be inside a woman to grow.

    IF it's not part of her body then she has every right to take it out.


    If it's not part of her body it should be able to sit on a shelf and grow..





    How many fetuses do you know of that did not grow inside of a woman(besides in labs)?


    ACTUALLY If you are contending that it isn't part of her body ( giant departure from fact and science) it is up to you to show that a fetus does not have to be inside a woman to grow.

    IF it's not part of her body then she has every right to take it out.


    If it's not part of her body it should be able to sit on a shelf and grow..



    Blue bolding is the part you can't/won't address.
     
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    Like everything.....
     
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    while it's in his body, he controls it, when it's in hers, she does

    if I donate blood to someone, do I control it, can I ask for it back at anytime, how about a kidney?
     
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    if I feed you food, and you feel sick and need to throw up, sense it's my food I gave you.... can I force you to hold it in and process it the way I want you too?
     
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    Ok, well I'll hand it to you and admit that's a good analogy.
    But throwing up is a natural process.

    And yes, I do believe the woman is entitled to getting her uterus sucked out if she does it right after the man has done his business.
     
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    So you thought you'd try opinion instead of proof?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ugh, not the fetus is inside her body argument.

    Why does happening to be located inside her body automatically make it all hers?


    Maybe I shouldn't bring this up but I saw a nasty porno once where a bald guy's head was fully inserted into a woman.

    You can argue about consent, but here's a situation where someone else is obviously inside her and it's not her body, which is the point of what we're discussing here.
    inside her body ≠ part of her body
     
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    Perhaps a tapeworm is part of her body too
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If she goes into a jewelry store and shoves a diamond ring into her body, does that mean she can walk off with it?
     
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    So if I want one of your kidneys I can just take it because it is NOT YOURS just because it is inside your body according to your own illogical drivel.
     
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    The kidneys are mine for other reasons that don't just have to do with being inside my body.
     
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    Depends on what contract you wish to draw up and it depends if the other party wishes to accept. You could say be a match for someone to donate a kidney but you might want $200 per month for keeping them alive.
     
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    What are these "other reasons" that you allegedly have?
     
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    he actually needed that explained to him. Amazing
     
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    They actually are "her body".
    Is this difficult?
     

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