Only 7 Black Students Got Into N.Y.’s Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots

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  1. unkotare

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    Doing well on tests like the SAT isn't about IQ as much as practicing for the test, studying the material that's covered and knowing test taking tips. I've taught SAT prep and kids can go up hundreds of points with proper prep. It's not about any group being naturally smarter than another. That's nonsense.
     
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    We should have the finest public schools in the world and no need for private schools. These kids are America's future. Why we should treat education like The Hunger Games, instead if providing a quality education for all of them is beyond me.
     
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    Perhaps there weren't any placements left after the billionaires bought them off for their very average offspring.
     
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    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For the many families who cannot afford prep classes for their kids, study materials are available through the public library. It is harder, but it can be done.
     
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    Cus there are always underachievers, low to middling IQ's, 'fill in the blank' disenfranchised, linguistically challenged etc. etc. - We are NOT all created equal & that is OK! That's how we were created; - life ain't fair, all we can do is try our hardest w/ the hand we are dealt. Life is like the Hunger Games in most respects & that is healthy!
     
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    At the college level sports generate money and college is a business.

    They excel in spite of the schools by putting in even more effort their counterparts but only a select few will make it under such skewed conditions, leading to the current controversy that this thread is about.

    I don't know what the school system is like in your country but here people move to certain zip codes and pay for private schools because they KNOW that the quality of schools make a huge difference in their kids opportunities.
     
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    It isn't "the schools"
    but, the students too.


    I transferred from Hollywood High
    to Corona del Mar High (Newport Beach) in the 11 grade

    and my GPA shot up.

    It is harder to learn when your class mates
    are like future bums of :flagus:

    Private Schools do attract higher quality students
    as do magnet schools.
     
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    I agree. The level of education of their parents and the income level of the family are also advantages. The kids who have already been exposed to college level language throughout their lives will have less ground to make up. Children who spend a lot of time reading and analyzing text over the years are also better prepared.
     
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    Private school students have parents who are willing to pay for their education. Often this is a financial sacrifice. They will expect the kids not to waste this investment. All kids can learn and there are no "poor quality" kids.

     
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    Most sports do not.
     
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    There was one on affirmative action

    Obama's.
     
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    The average IQ in Appalachia hovers around 98 which is about 13 points above the average IQ of black Americans with their White admixture......and about 20 points above the average sub-Saharan IQ of 75. If anyone has a beef about lack of educational resources it is those kids.......
     
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    Definitely a racist school. Only admitting 194 white students into 895 slots is obviously an attack on white privilege.
     
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    I sat through the two 4 hour sessions of my son’s IQ test and it’s a test-to-fail, as long as he kept doing things right the test would continue until he failed - it’s incredibly difficult. IQ tests are a measure of a person’s ability to learn, in the test my kid took he didn’t have to solve problems, he was given the answers to everything and had to continually recall what the answers were. The problems were on cards and I would typically only make it to the fourth or fifth card before I failed, my kid went beyond that.
     
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    I agree completely. We all have inequities to deal with. Even when the family is educated and can give their kids that boost up, they may also be dysfunctional, or selfish, or living with substance abuse -- any number of other factors that can inhibit a child's emotional growth. Education is the great equalizer.

    In the end, all we have is our own brains. What we put in them, and how we choose to protect them or expose them to damaging substances is all on us. No excuses.
     
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    How did this thread devolve into nonsense like this?
     
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    How old was your son and which test did he take?

     
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    What about diversity? What about athletes?
     
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    The benefits of diversity is an assumption!

    Athletics has been over played at institutions of cerebral development
    and needs to be cut down if not relegated to non educational settings
    such as Pop Warner Football, Little League, and possible new formats.


    Did y'all know that 1 point is added to the Grade Point Average for
    athletics participation for college admissions.
    When did that start happening I do not know. Is is absurd yet true.
     
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    I agree that we all have challenges. There are things that we can do as individuals and as a society to prioritize higher education and development.

     
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    :roflol:

    Okay, I stopped laughing now.
    What is your basis for saying this?
    Belief? Personal experience?

    The transfer from Hollywood High to Corona del Mar certainly effected my education.
    More so because the other students were better quality than the differences in quality of the teachers, supplies, text books, etc.

    #408 this thread


    And don't miss the illuminations of #420 either.
     
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    There's not enough money to go around.
     
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    It's been my experience the "low quality" kids are almost always dealing with trauma or life situations that make education totally irrelevant in their lives. At a school I taught at, there was a nice 6th grade girl, never would apply herself, was content with C's, never complained, then in 7th we found out her brother was raping her every night. That kind of stuff happens more than you think.
     
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    Yes that stuff happens.
    Why should my education be diluted by her problems.
    Whether organic, psychological, economic, . . . does not matter.
    Put kids in classes with other motivated kids and see what happens.
    And kids ready to learn have RIGHTS too!
     
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