Only 7 Black Students Got Into N.Y.’s Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots

Physical Education vs Competitive Sports
Big Diff.

Athletics has produced too many college graduate, Forrest Gump-s

 

And predominantly Christian nations defeated him...

 

If public schools can't do the job, it's not the students' faults. They deserve to be somewhere that they can learn and feel safe. If Democrats truly cared about these kids, they would be for vouchers. But they seem to have another agenda. They talk a good game, but have no follow through. I am not a union proponent. I think when they first started way back when, they did a lot of good. But for teachers' unions today, it's all about greed and not about the students. They protect bad teachers. They need to get rid of them---the teachers and the unions.

 

Do you think Stalinist Russia was predominantly Christian?

 

I know the argument FOR vouchers. I was explaining the liberal side. It's not the strawman you think it is. Neither side is evil or doesn't want what's best for the kids. They just have policy disagreements. I'm a teacher, I was a former union president, I'm against vouchers, and my position might be wrong. None of that means I'm "not about the students". Nobody goes into teaching to make money.

 

I don't agree that there is a hostility for education in black culture, overall, and there are class considerations. There is a sizable black middle class and a smaller black upper class of people with degrees who expect their children to attend college.

I see plenty of encouragement for education even among black people without degrees but I think a lot of people aren't clear about what's needed to compete in a global society.
People tend to do what their parents did but with each generation blacks have more upward mobility. At this point, somewhere between 20 and 25 percent of African-Americans have degrees. This will help the next generation.

Here's a poll of what black and Latino people think about the education system: https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate....re-aware-of-racial-disparities-in-schools.amp

 

I was a teacher too, and I am all for vouchers because I think they help disadvantaged kids in bad schools escape them.

 

I'm against vouchers because we should make providing an excellent education for all of our kids a priority by improving the public schools. Letting a select few escape bad schools doesn't address the larger problem.

 

That's why I said predominantly.

 

Branches of the same tree. Competitive sports can teach things that students are unlikely to learn anywhere else.

 

It's the height of arrogance to call any kids "low quality". Good post and what a sad situation ...

 

Sorry, but you are towing the Lib line when you are actually in the trenches. Maybe you're in a great school with fabulous teachers. Good for you and count yourself lucky, but there are many kids trapped in bad schools who would like a chance too.

 

Yet, the poorest districts get the least funding. I'll post some data about it.

 

If you're going to claim IQ is race linked (it isn't, of course), you can't claim something like this. Either it's race linked, or it isn't. The poor attitude (ie, CULTURE) to learning and the mind is what makes 'em dumb. Just as it does in all humans, no matter what colour. A Chinese kid brought up in the same environment with the same parenting, will be just as dumb.

 

AGAIN, these schools exist for the very purpose of providing high level education to those who otherwise couldn't afford it. You must be a hard-nosed Conservative who doesn't care for equality of opportunity, if you think that's a problem.

 

The academic outcomes of a school have nothing to do with differences in funding.

 

Yes, it's a function of the way they're raised, and parental attitude to education (which in NE Asian families, is engaged in from very early childhood, at home).

 

Because that was how many passed the damned test. Obviously. The test designed to pick up academic ability .. not colour, not wealth, not social status. Just pure, unbiased academic ability. There is NO FAIRER system.

 

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-student-athletes-continue-classroom-success

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/college-athletes-graduate-record-high-rates

"student-athletes graduate at a rate 2 percentage points higher than the general student body — 68 percent compared with 66 percent. The difference is most stark among black women. Student-athletes in this demographic outpace their peers in the student body by 19 percentage points — 70 percent for student-athletes compared with 51 percent for the student body."

 

It is 'inherited', but not genetically.

 

But did religion play any part in the wars? Can’t recall us going to war with Japan for Jesus. However Muslims kill in the name
of Alah daily. They blew up the towers for Alah. They chop the heads of infidels for ALah. The toss gays off roofs for Alah.

This is like idiots blaming Christianity when a white person who celebrates Christmas shoots someone. There’s a very large distinction here.

 

Yes, that's how all those Asian kids get in to such schools. Cheating. It's not the 5 hours of homework a day and Saturday school they do for years leading up to the test. It's cheating.

 

And seriously weird that you think poverty or long hours make it impossible. Are you saying that poor people are lazier than rich people? Because this is about parental sacrifice of their own time, nothing more.

 

There are a variety of factors but funding makes a difference. Early childhood programs, enrichment opportunities, smaller class sizes, more computers, better quality teachers, Promethian boards, broader class choices, even the ability to have free lunch, breakfast and after school programs are impacted. You can't expect a hungry kid to focus well.

 

I really liked those years. 2 to 8 is the most challenging, IMO.