Texas considering death penalty for abortions

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  1. Bowerbird

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    They darent because they would lose one if thier main rallying points
     
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    The American Taliban strike again. They wouldn't be the American Taliban if they didn't think like this and try this kind of nonsense.
     
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    Reality 101.

    Rule 1 - People will have sex.

    Rule 2 - See rule number 1.

    Rule 3 - Still confused? See rule number 1.

    Now we can give people information, and every dime wasted on anti-abortion campaigns could have been used to make contraception more available or for well baby clinics - but at the end of the day, see rule number 1.

    One of the most effective changes in the reductions of abortions was pulling condoms out from behind the counter and making them more easily available to consumers - a move conservatives fought. The next most effective preventative to late term abortions was the day-after-pill, which conservatives also fought.
     
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    I mean its more like Roberts and Kavanaugh respect the public policy considerations involved and the constitutional principles implicated, respectively, but hey let's take the word of you a foreign layperson rather than a domestic attorney for it. Sounds like a great ****ing idea lady, don't you think?
     
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    They aren't trying to stop sex. They are trying to stop killing the result.
     
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    Liberals seem to think people must have sex anytime, anyplace with anyone no matter what the consequences

    But that is lunacy
     
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    Yet right below your post is a conservative poster who wants to stop sex.
     
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    And what does that have to do with the topic.
     
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    It's not a matter of "want". It's a matter of acknowledging the REALITY that people WILL have sex. It's about acknowledging the reality that sometimes contraception fails, even for married couples. It's Reality. Not fantasy land.
     
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    Killing a live born baby will remain regardless no matter where you are. But thanks for playing.
     
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    She still deserves the controlling share of "sovereignty" however. They are not equal.
     
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    Please provide any support what so ever that this happens.

    OR, admit your a liar and ****.
     
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    You don't hang around much in the Abortion section, do you?

    It's been covered already, multiple threads, eyewitness testimony, videos.

    (Maybe I exaggerated the wimpering part a little bit, it's so soft you can barely hear it)
     
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    I thought you guys liked late term abortions?
     
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    The has grown a lot more over the last 50 years than the North.

    I’ve lived my adult life in Connecticut and Texas. Connecticut is dead. Texas is booming.
     
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    Google “Virginia governor on abortion”. Lots of videos come up. There’s one with him giving a radio interview, about 2+ minutes long.

    Sorry, I can’t link on a phone.
     
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    Yes, her sovereignty ends where the next human begins. But I don't want abortion to be illegal, just to have sensible parameters as to how late an abortion is legal. We could use science to make that determination. It would probably be within the realm of the first trimester, and after that the life of the mother or severe deformation of the fetus would extend that window. We need to be sensible when it comes to ending another human life, with at least some decency and morality in consideration.

    With the easy availability of birth control there should be so few abortions, period. We should condition our people to be responsible human beings, emphasizing that irresponsible people use abortion as birth control. It has to less dangerous to use birth control over abortion, for the female.

    I don't see any social conditioning that would prompt more people to use birth control, over abortion for birth control, indeed quite the contrary. We reduced smoking by educating and conditioning our youth not to smoke. The same should be done for abortions, given the effectiveness of modern birth control, and make it free for anyone who cannot afford it.

    And only in rare circumstances and specific conditions should a late term abortion be legal. For if you are killing a human, that could with or without medical help, survive outside of the mother's womb that is nothing but outright murder or man slaughter.

    Is there a market, and are the organs of late term babies sold? I read that there is a market and indeed they are sold, with late term babies fetching the highest prices. But is it true? Does it happen? Or is this just another tin foil hat theory? Of course, the reality that I seem to inhabit would make such thinks within the realm of possibility.
     
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    Yes, her sovereignty ends where the next human begins. But I don't want abortion to be illegal, just to have sensible parameters as to how late an abortion is legal. We could use science to make that determination. It would probably be within the realm of the first trimester, and after that the life of the mother or severe deformation of the fetus would extend that window. We need to be sensible when it comes to ending another human life, with at least some decency and morality in consideration.

    With the easy availability of birth control there should be so few abortions, period. We should condition our people to be responsible human beings, emphasizing that irresponsible people use abortion as birth control. It has to less dangerous to use birth control over abortion, for the female.

    I don't see any social conditioning that would prompt more people to use birth control, over abortion for birth control, indeed quite the contrary. We reduced smoking by educating and conditioning our youth not to smoke. The same should be done for abortions, given the effectiveness of modern birth control, and make it free for anyone who cannot afford it.

    And only in rare circumstances and specific conditions should a late term abortion be legal. For if you are killing a human, that could with or without medical help, survive outside of the mother's womb that is nothing but outright murder or man slaughter.

    Is there a market, and are the organs of late term babies sold? I read that there is a market and indeed they are sold, with late term babies fetching the highest prices. But is it true? Does it happen? Or is this just another tin foil hat theory? Of course, the reality that I seem to inhabit would make such things within the realm of possibility.
     
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    The science on something like this would be heavily politicized.

    I'd imagine the research would probably have to take place in a country where abortion is a total non-issue in terms of controversy.
     
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    Abstinence is absurd as a proposed solution to unwanted pregnancies. It's like proposing we deal with gun violence purely by expecting everyone to be responsible with their guns and never abuse or mishandle them.

    Oh, wait. You do kind of do that too, don't you?
     
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    Childten smoke cigarettes

    But liberals dont overlook or accept that
     
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    If it remains against the law for abortion doctors to kill newborn babies its only due to the obstance of conservative republicans
     
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    Ya... cause if your not a republican, your a blood thirsty baby killer. Got it.


    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
     
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    And sadly, your are of course right in regards to the science For science plus political bent equals a corruption of science thanks to human nature. When science can be corrupted and affected by politics, it is time for Scotty to beam us up, for there isn't any intelligent life forms down here.
     
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    Pretty much, yeah
     

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