I'm Reading The Entire Mueller Report | 37% Completed | Very Disturbing

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  1. Primus Epic

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    About 37% of the way through this thing and I've been on the edge of my task chair nearly the entire time. From what I gather at this point in my reading is that Barr, completely killed any credibility he had before accepting the ATG position and that Trump, his Family members (sons) and his upper echelon campaign generals were doing nothing less than cooperating with Russian Agents to conspire infringement of the 2016 Presidential election.

    I'll have more later, but from the 1/3 that I've read thus far, the United States Congress has plenty evidence that points to the Trump Campaign's knowledge, cooperation and direct involvement in Russian Interference with the 2016 election. That much more clear to me now than it ever has been before.

    The outright lies told by this President in direct relation to his role in trying to prevent the investigation are epic in both magnitude and quantity. He told lies. He directed people within his own administration to lie. He fathered, fostered and perpetuated lies about what he did specifically to cause others to end the investigation.

    When you read the report, you will note the tone, tenor and character of the man now sitting in the White House as being pedantic, petty, childish, immature and downright obsessive compulsive when it came to the investigation itself. At one point, Trump, even admits that he felt his presidency was coming to and end. This report shows a man who was scrambling to change the narrative away from the investigation by any means necessary.

    If you have not begun reading this report, you are doing yourself a disservice. Everyone needs to be fully aware of what's in this document. I question whether this President has the ability to conduct himself with any degree of integrity, given what I've read thus far.

    The most telling and disturbing thing of all is the way that he went about playing his supporters. He says one thing to his supporters at a rally, and then turns around minutes later and does something completely different when he thought his actions would never come to the light of day. He has used and abused his supporters and made them look like complete fools. He's clearly using the Republican Party as the mechanism to further his own interest.

    It is quite clear that Russia, was trying to influence the election on behalf of Donald Trump. It is quite clear that Donald Trump and his top surrogates knew full well that they were cooperating with Russia. And, it is quite clear that top Trump Campaign officials maintained ongoing relationships specifically anchored in the exchange of information that would have positive impact for Donald Trump in the 2016 election, even when they knew the information being exchanged was deleterious to Trump's opposition (Hillary Clinton).

    To be continued.....
     
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    So what in the report leads you to believe that there was some illegalities involved?
     
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    And, one more thing. ATG Barr, lied through his teeth today and it could even be said that he lied to Congress during his testimony. This man said "no collusion" and "completely exonerated." That is not what the Mueller Report says when you search on and read the actual words Mueller used. I'll leave it up to you to read for yourself. Barr, has clearly been running his own "interference campaign" for the benefit of the President.

    There is something else going on here that I can't quite put my finger on. Based on what I've read so far, this man is no doubt impeachable. Yet, neither side in the Congress seems to want anything to do with taking this man out of office. Given what I'm reading and comparing it to what other Presidents have done in office, Trump, is impeachable many times over. Yet, this Congress wants no part of it. Why. Something is not right here.

    There is something else going on that nobody in Congress is talking about and nobody in the media is talking about. There seems to be some kind of invisible defense shield wrapped around this particular President. Nothing sticks. Nothing at all. The Report is damning and very troubling thus far. You simply cannot have an American President behaving in the manner that this Report clearly suggests. You just can't. You cannot have a functional Republic with this kind of pathological lying going on from one minute to the next, from one crowd of supporters to the next press conference, to the next private meeting with administration officials and then to the next Tweet where something entirely different is stated.

    This President has a serous problem with the Truth. It is as if he hates the Truth.
     
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    It does not have to be illegal to be impeachment material. This is foreknowledge, offer, acceptance, consideration and cooperation. Heck, they basically had an ongoing "Contract" with Russian Agents to foil the election. This is not how a Presidential Candidate should be conducting himself or his campaign. Full Stop.
     
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    I don't have a dog in the fight other than Truth Dog. If Truth Dog gets hurt, I'm all over it. This is just denial of the facts in spite of the facts and without regard for the facts. The Mueller Report is right there to be read by all. There are no more excuses. Roughly 1/10th of the report has been redacted - maybe a little more than that. Almost 90% of the report is available for anyone with eyes and a brain to read.

    Trump Supporters have been used like a pack mule. Like any ordinary prostitute. He's pimping his supporters. He pimped them out for votes, lied to their faces as if they had no brains and abuses them by continually claiming he's the victim of a fraudulent investigation. I cannot imagine how it must feel knowing that you've been treated like nothing more than a Political Prostitute. THIS is why I do not support EITHER party. I got tired of being Turned Out like a two bit whore by politicians selling me on the political streets where I get a "poll" shoved up my rear end every election cycle.

    Just calling it like I see it.
     
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    LMFAO!

    The reports says no such thing.

    Why are you making crap up???
     
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    And the Trump campaign didn't take the bait.

    Hello! Anybody home????
     
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    Mueller established that the investigation started with virtually no evidence of a crime. The Supreme Court will rule that nothing in the report is admissible evidence within any Federal venue.

    If the Dems try to Impeach Trump at this point, it will amount to a hard coup.
     
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    Now is the time to drag the deeds of the Dem traitors in front of a grand jury and lock several of them up.
     
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    Incompetence or Coordination?

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    How can a Presidential Campaign be so incompetent as to not know who it is dealing with relative to its own sponsored rallies. You've got to know who is working on your behalf at a planned rally, if you are the entity hosting that rally. The vetting process for people "coordinating" rallies with and/or for you needs to be quality assured. You can't just "hook-up" with anybody who calls you and tells you they want to "coordinate" with you on a rally. If somebody want's to donate to your campaign that's one thing to be handled one way. However, if somebody wants to be on the ground with you participating in your own rally, you need to have them vetted.
     
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    Criminal Acts are one thing. Impeachable Offenses are another thing. They do not have to be equal to each other, nor do they stand upon the same level of scrutiny. Virtually no evidence of a crime, could very well be more than enough evidence of an impeachable offense. Lots of people connecting to the Trump Campaign got indicted on real charges. Trump's personal attorney is going to prison. Trump's chief campaign manager will be doing significant time in prison. This entire campaign was corrupt to the hilt. "Virtually no evidence" lead to virtually everybody getting indicted.

    Impeachable Offenses do not have to be Criminal Acts.
     
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    Read the Report. Have you done that? Note what Barr, said to Congress and during his latest press conference. Have you done that? The rest should be obvious for anyone having paid attention. When you start reading the Report and you pay attention to what Barr, has been saying. It makes it pretty clear that he's been lying through his teeth to the American People. The Report is sitting there right in front you - ignore it at your own risk of being pimped out by this President.

    If you want to be his little beach ball, then go right ahead. Knock yourself out. If you think it is ok for him to pimp you out like he's doing right now, then keep on ignoring the Report and simply accept what Barr, tells you to your face. Barr, represented the Report to the American People falsely. Anyone having actually put their nose into the Report, can see that clearly. He pushed an agenda of "no collusion and complete exoneration" and the Report simply does not say it that way. Barr, took liberties that don't even have a basis within the Report itself.

    LMFAO? Yes, that's what laughing gas does to people who refuse to read for themselves.

    Why not just find another Republican Presidential Candidate in 2020? I don't understand this obsession with a man who is himself an obsessive compulsive liar. What redeeming values do you see in Donald Trump? Name one. Just one. Find another candidate - I beg you. I do not want to vote for an Ultra Liberal who will bastardize the Second Amendment and Kill More Unborn Children. But, I will absolutely NOT stand with a pathetic lunatic like Donald J. Trump. I will not vote in 2020, if you Trump Supporters don't find another viable candidate to support.

    Show some integrity, why don't you. Man-up an show some integrity. Flee from this idiot and find/support a Republican Presidential Candidate who can at least tell the Truth and who will not work with Russians, to get elected.
     
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    Nobody gives a ****, cause nobody cares who you are.

    And until you become someone of importance, your OPINION is about as credible as mine.

    And I say Trump is clean.

    So we're at a stalemate.
     
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    That's what Democrats have been hoping for, but it ain't happening. Trump has our economy running like a new car, historic trade deals are being made, hes fighting for border security, and our military is no longer run by a bunch of giant vaginas.

    He's going to win reelection. Vegas has him as the favorite by far, and they arent in the business of losing money.

    Sit back and enjoy the next half decade. Who knows, if you spent half as much time exerting yourself as you do reading reports, you may also be able to thrive in this vibrant economy.

    Peace.
     
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    Stop the pretense. Find another Republican Candidate for President that I can put my support behind in 2020 or I will not vote. Period.
     
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    Sigh. Just as with 9/11 "truth", no goalpost can ever stay put.

    Russia's aim is to pit each other against each other, which is why they also agitate for far left activism. To divide the country.
     
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    The Constitution defines impeachment. The President may be impeached and removed only for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".
     
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    According to the Constitution they do. But I don't expect you to know what the Constitution says. Go ahead and impeach...please do. FYI, I read through the report and it was a joke, a pathetic Micky-Mouse joke.
     
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    One doesn't even need the Mueller report to know that.

    That was as plain as day the day he walked down the escalator, the day he started tweeting, the day he started stinking up the joint in the 70s...the day he was born.

    He's just a crummy dude.
     
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    So, we can see here that "Contact(s) with the Campaign about WikiLeaks" is still being investigated:

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    Except that you are nowhere in my vicinity of education and nearly every Global 50 company has sought my opinion over the past 20 years on matters that you would know absolutely nothing about.

    Now, with respect to Trump being clean. My reply? You are delusional. READ the damn Report. It is now sitting right in front of you. You can read, can't you? Maybe I rushed to judgement on that note. The Report is scathing as it relates to the conduct of the Trump Campaign and its acquiescence with Russian Operatives. This is not "opinion." It is in the Report. READ IT.
     
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    You know I think the only thing that can top this meltdown for me would be if Trump pardoned Manafort and Flynn Monday. Democrats would be in total and complete meltdown. Really after all this bs they kinda deserve it imo
     
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    Your dick must be so huge. Again, you think I or anyone here gives a ****? Are you on Muellers team? Then your OPINION is as irrelevant as mine.

    Heres the thing... the one and only thing I, or you, or anyone else was concerned about, and that was an indictment.

    You can write as many paragraphs as you want in as much vivid detail and tap dance around the language used in this line and over here in this paragraph but at the end of the day, the investigation is over and Trump is, and will continue to be, the president.

    What's more, he will win reelection.

    Did your vast education help you see Trump winning in 2016? If not, it's much easier to see this time around.
     
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    Well I think sensible people were perhaps beginning to sense the impossible at each stage where it seemed like that was it for him, another gaff that would end it normally, but instead his numbers went up.

    One thing is for sure....many didn't care about his gaffs and ineptitude then, and they obviously don't care now. For those people, Trump could still shoot someone. It remains to be seen how many have come to their senses.
     
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