20 dead, hundreds injured as explosions hit Sri Lankan churches and hotels

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

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    She'll have nothing. But if the challenge was to name the positive things Jews have done for the world the list would be very long indeed.
     
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    That's not fair,,
    You are comparing 3% of the population with 20% of it.


    OOOOPPPPs , those might be back words.
     
  3. Pisa

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    You might need to change your tune. I never look for excuses for terrorists. Reasons, yes, not excuses. It's not the same thing, you know.

    Hotels were targeted. Christian churches were targeted. Not local Buddhist temples, not local Hindu temples. Why?
     
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    Because most of the population is buddhist.
    All the muslims in the country might be dead by now.
     
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    You stated you do not support International law. Basically it is one or the other. This was the intent after WW2. Human beings are capable of the most awful atrocities to each other, having as with WW2 wars which killed tens of millions of people, Because of that the UN was set up. Now the US is telling it to go to hell. You have a choice. Follow International Law or it is Might is Right. That is the choice. I agree the UN needs massive overhauling. It needs to become more democratic not allowing the most military to have the most power and it needs to be able to bite if necessary if countries continue to deny it.

    or you use international law. Basically you are talking about Imperialism. That is Might is Right. I was just watching a good documentary called 'Why People in the Europe and the US are so angry' by an Indian Pankaj Mishra. It is the first I have seen of his and certainly in this one he hit the nail on the head in many places. What you are describing is a situation where by pure force, that is without the will of the people, others can rule over them. He describes the kind of mentality this power over another creates He's actually speaking about when people lose power but it gives you a good idea of what the attitude of the one who has by Might and by Imperialism been able to assert their will on another people

    You can find it if you want on Youtube.

    And this is what has been going on. Christian Zionists were furious about the concept of the 2 State Solution. Some years ago I read a fair bit about it. They were speaking to the extremists in Israel, egging them on saying this must not happen. I think the Palestinian State probably would have happened if it had not been for the pressure from the religious right in the US - them and the neo cons. They are a horrific pair - an example of why I say that - the two of them together were trying to get the death penalty for gays in Uganda. So being terrified that the Palestinians were going to get a State and their bible would not come true they managed to get a bill through Congress which said the US would move its Embassy to Jerusalem the undivided capital of Israel. This was saying loud and clear that there would be no two state solution if the US had anything to do with it......Now, the UK Labour Party were determined to confront the US. They were blaming the US more than Israel and for a very good reason, Israel could not act as she has without its protection. Europe also was determined to set things right and help the Palestinians get a just peace. (just in that it gave them something) All that changed after 9/11 and really what changed was a move away from us being liberal Democracies. Our Governments took on the US view and instead of making the situation for Israel so undesirable that she would want to make an agreement they decided instead to play a big lie. They pretended the Palestinians were just like ISIS, they gave Israel the right to kill them at will whereas before they had been very critical of Israel's over harsh treatment of the Palestinians which of course she could do under Might is Right - but not under western liberal democracy. Not under that thinking which at that time was not Imperialistic, certainly here in the UK.. We had spent two decades in neo liberalism but we had not sunk to that level. The difference in thinking is, before we would have looked at a situation. We would have wondered why people acted in a particular way and worked towards finding a resolution. For instance at this time the EU had paid for an MI6 to work with Hamas and he was having excellent results. He managed to get them to call a cease fire. Israel ended that cease fire and Hamas responded. They had not yet learned of provocation. So for responding to Israel killing some of its people, Hamas became a people who anyone and everyone should kill anyone and everyone who has ever seen them. The West changed. Israel was also given permission to build lots of new jails where they could keep political prisoners in. Possibly worse she was given the green light to assassinate Palestinians at will - one of the biggest reasons it is hard to find resourceful Palestinian Politicians. The West changed after 9/11 from liberal democracies to Imperialism and Might is Right and we have been acting against International law ever since to one degree or another. This allows anything to be done to the one with 'evil' projected on their chest so that the US does not even murmur when Israel is deliberately killing civilians and not only that but civilians who are medics, who are journalists who are children and who are the disabled. This is how low we have sunk. You can surely see how that relates to what Pankaj Mishra said. We have dehumanised the Palestinians as well of course as all Muslims. We cannot kill enough.

    I think you are speaking of the UN here and I have dealt with that. I left the rest because it was just rude nonsense.

    You haven't asked it but I will just put in a short video which illustrates how much the US position and especially with Trump comes from the American Christian Right.

     
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    Neveir seen so much nonsense in a single post. Thanks Alexa for that example.
     
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    Show me where Islam has been mentioned?
     
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    Prove it! But of course you have no proof because no one has claimed responsibility.
     
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    Hooey, only in the fear-laden minds of bigots is this even considered the truth.
     
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    They are arresting people who are Muslims.
    I suppose it's to early to guess all the info.
     
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    Well actually no, the ancient Greeks were not Christians - although the philosophers did adopt a belief in one God. I guess they realized there was no logic in the idolatrous demon gods of their own fears and desires. Did you ever hear of the Antikythera Mechanism. It's an ancient computer that replicates the movements of the sun, planet, moon. Unbelievable, especially the ones who figured it out and made copies. It took about 10 years.

    Anyway inventions come with necessity. If you have no one to communicate with, what's the point of a telephone or internet. Mind you when I say Greeks, I'm not talking about a people, but a culture that incorporated the brilliant minds all over the Middle East and Persian world.

     
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    One of the terrorists is named Mohamed. I repeat, attacking on Christian holidays is an Islamic calling card. More than likely they are jihadists returning from Syria. If I was Europe I would be quite worried. Many of those pretending to be Syrian refugees are anything but. Fake Syrian passports was quite a profitable business in Turkey.
     
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    A government official said the bombings were carried out by an extremist group but he was not naming it or suspects to avoid any communal violence. I suspect that the Tamil Tigers that vowed to carve out a separate Tamil state in Sri Lanka were responsible for the blasts that killed 200, guessing from other quotes from the Minister of Finance who said that this is a heinous attempt to drag our country back into the dark past. There was no Islamist terrorism in Sri Lanka in the past.

     
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    The poster mentioned it. Where's the problem?
     
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    There were Christians in the Tamil Tigers, so they wouldn't attack Christian churches on a Christian holiday. As I said many times on the thread, attacking on Christian holidays is an Islamic calling card. If you don't want to ask the Copts who have suffered it for decades, then ask the Greeks. They were always attacked by the Turks on Easter, which is it's major holiday.

    Next week is Orthodox Easter and I'm sure the Greek government is taking precautions especially after the latest provocations and threats by Erdogan. A couple of years ago Turkey made preparations to attack and take the island of Oenousis on Easter, but the people got whiff of it and notified the Greek government. Once the Greek soldiers were on the island, there was no way the Turks could get on it.

    What the government in Sri Lanka wants to do is find out if the terrorists are connected to any foreign group or nation. When the terrorist attack occurred in India and killed some Chinese tourists, it turned out they were connected to Turkey.

    What we don't know is what tourists were staying in the hotels at that time. Were they Chinese who have their problems with their Turkish population or maybe Germans or Jews. What we do know is that one of the attacker's name is Mohamed and that they attacked 3 Catholic Churches on Easter.
     
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    How is @alexa doing that?
     
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    There are differences of course, but nothing that would make one side less evil than the other.

    When the blow back over US foreign policy comes from religious fanatics, it should make us smarter as to avoid a foreign policy that stirs up radical religious fanatics, especially a religion that believes their god wants them to fight for Him. Since he isn't willing to do it.
     
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    This just in.

    It was the Druids.
     
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    Agreed.

    In a righteous & democratic government, yes. But the U.S. is neither of those. Let's take an example and be honest. Irak. The U.S. lied about WMD's there, made up fake intercepted telephone conversations as proof, embedded CIA spies in the first inspection team, tortured and murdered innocent men women and children, allowed both the infrastructure and natural heritage to be utterly destroyed, sold out the Kurds, installed death squads, etc. Now .... what is the "blowback" you speak of? Yes-yes, I understand but what does it have to do with the people who caused all of that mayhem? How many gazillions of dollars did they make from that operation? For them it was a win-win. Why hell, none of them even were put on trial. But Manning, Assange, and the guy who threw his shoe? They got the
    hoosegow.
    prison_0.jpg
     
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    Yes our reality is not something anyone should accept as the way it has to be, but quite the contrary. I guess our rulers don't believe we can exist as a nation and people unless we emulate what humanity has lived like since the rise of civilization. Of course, it is deeply evil, what we do, but somehow people don't mind it, or pay attention to it.

    If I were a religious person, I would have to believe satan rules humanity, the ruler of this earth. For our history as a species sure as hell looks like it, including our own nation, at least since post ww2 when it comes to foreign policy.
     
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    True. True. True.
     
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    Oh.... dear...
    Like you did not understand what i said ... Even Dutch explained it to you in another thread.
    If Muslim Arabs want ,desire and have to to kill other Muslim arabs, Please not around us.
     
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    Most countries would accept them without the jihadism fiendishly taught by Mohamed to empower himself.
     
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    Islamic State supporters celebrate Sri Lanka suicide bombings as ‘revenge’ for NZ mosque massacre
    https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/...e/news-story/5bfb619cab3bd78cb29a1df54a0e519c

    Imagine the extreme right celebrating Christchurch attack, in fact they censured Senator Anning for condemning the attack then asking if migration could be a contributing problem... honestly the double standards are ridiculous.

    I request all muslim women remove their hijab in memory of these Christians who died during Easter
     

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