Should Democrats urge the impeachment of Donald Trump over the Mueller report?

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  1. Blinda Vaganto

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  2. Bush Lawyer

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    Naughty. MIsquoting to mislead gets you banned on some Aussie Forums.
     
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    I don't know as I'd say they love what he is doing, they spend a lot of time saying it doesn't matter what he does as long as it pisses off liberals. A lot of what he does slits their throats and they seem OK with that because liberals try to defend them. Kinda weird if you ask me.
     
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    He cuts taxes, cuts regulations, fights illegal immigration, confirms as many conservative judges as he can. Show me a conservative who is against it. Probably some of them don't like his withdrawal from Syria and some other things he does, but those are relatively small issues compared to what he does right.
     
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    This is NOT what Muller report say. It say there was no collusion.
    So no one in Trump people was contacted on this by any Russian.
     
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    And on this one
     
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    No that is NOT what Mueller said

    And you seem to have forgotten already the number of people who have either pled guilty or have been charged

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    Is this a Russian IRA video because it sure looks like one!!
     
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    Actually he said that what Don Jr and Jarod did in the NY meeting did rise to that level but he didn't think they could be prosecuted because they could claim that they were too stupid to know what they were doing was illegal. Pity the prosecutor that would have to try and prove Trump family members weren't actually stupid.
     
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    First, no, he has not cut one dime in taxes, he has deferred some taxes and is increasing the debt to do it. Furthermore, nearly all the deferrals have been given to the hyper rich and he and his republican pals have made it absolutely clear that they intend to revamp, ie cut, medicare and social security to pay for it. You know programs overwhelmingly paid for by the middle class who got chump change in deferrals. That would be known as wealth redistribution from to middle class to the hyper rich.

    His cutting regulations is sad. His main target has been environment. I rather like clean air and water. But then kids today haven't known what it's like to have to clean soot off your windshield when driving through Gary Indiana or fear eating fish from a lake.

    If he wants to fight illegal immigration so much why has he rejected money for programs to bolster the effectiveness of the border patrol and coast guard in favor of a useless wall and is fact taking money from the military to do it? That is a mystery to me.
     
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    Got any that are false that were pushed as true by RW members? Still a drop in the bucket compared to anti-Trump meme's and having 90% negative coverage by the MSM.
     
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    Calm down. Unlike you we don't jail our opposition after an election
     
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    Who doesn't like to win? The problem is the Democrats feel that the ends justifies the means and want to win at any price no matter what it takes.

    The prime motive for Trump support is his policy statements. If you paid attention to the concerns of average American's instead of hearing only the elitist POV, you'd know how disenfranchised so many felt. You'd know how so many thought the country was going in the wrong direction which was 70% just before the 2016 election. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1669/general-mood-country.aspx might not be much better now but still better than most every year of the Obama admin and it will get better if the economy continues on its present course.
     
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    You are misinformed

    The democrats in congress, Deep State operatives and the liberal news media certainly do plan to put republicans in jail if they can

    Because thats the easiest way for them to win back political power
     
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    Trump has decreased national debt as a percentage of GDP not increased it.

    Rich people in the United States are paying a much bigger share of their incomes than the middle class. Stop demonizing them all of the time.

    There are more regulations than any lawyer can read understand and remember and they were multiplying by the hour. There is nothing sad about cutting them.

    I live in Israel. Don't tell me your stories that walls don't work. We stopped both terrorist attacks and illegal immigrants from Africa with the help of the walls. Border patrol agents are saying that they need it. And who would know better?
     
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    Please note that this poster is one of our self-admitted white supremacists, at least he has seemed to clearly defend white supremacy in the past. I bring this up not to attack him but as being illustrative of the real reason most Trump supporters support Trump. He hates the right people.

    I don't think we should impeach Trump on the basis of what we have now, but I think all the investigations should continue. Right now we have to save Healthcare and insure Social Security and Medicare from attacks by this madman and his puling toadies. Once that is done and we can show the American people what we have saved them from there will be more than enough time left to impeach him. Let him try to brazen THAT into his 2020 campaign.
     
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    Everything Obama did was over reach and an abuse of power in order to regulate everything. Many things he did was simply to harass the public and intimidate businesses he didn't like.

    Veteran jailed and fined for digging a pond on his rural property
    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press...-digging-ponds-on-his-rural-montana-property/

    Gibson guitar for their support of GOP candidates.
    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/gibson-guitar-raid-like-tea-party-intimidation/

    6 1/2 years in prison for packaging lobsters wrong.
    https://ideatransfuser.wordpress.co...ter-importing-to-prison-a-story-of-violation/

    Obama ran the country like a Chicago gangster.
     
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    That was before his tax deferral, he's more than made up that tiny dip this year.

    They pay a larger percentage of income taxes they pay a much smaller percentage of all taxes. That's how they get you, by focusing one one aspect and ignoring the rest.

    Until you get sick from the air and water pollution.


    Get back to us when you build a several thousands kilometer largely unmanned wall.
     
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    No they should not impeach Trump or spend any more time and taxpayer money trying to remove Trump as President.
    Since the "Not my President" marches when Trump won, the Democrats have concentrated all their efforts towards ousting Trump by whatever means they can. Just to remind them, they were elected to represent their constituents, not conduct an ongoing pointless witch hunt. So stop and do the damn job you were elected to do.
     
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    The vet was 78

    He spent 18 months in prison and died shortly after being released

    They also fined him $130,000

    Trump is the first and only president to care about liberal stupidity like that
     
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    Kilometer?

    Americans say miles

    I wish foreigners would mind their own damn business and stay out of ours
     
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    Read the Report. It outlines a number of actions by the Russians and the Trump campaign to assist one another. What it doesn't show is that this seemingly coordinated activity was coordinated.
     
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    Blinda Vaganto Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry but we foreigners sometimes want to learn and practice some English so we can give you directions when you come to our countries. And one of the ways to do it is to talk with you on the internet. And politics (American politics in particular) just happens to be a big topic for discussion.
     
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    So is the insider effort to take him down.
     
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    No or not yet. Support isn't there among the American Public as a whole. 36% in favor, 59% oppose. Most of those in favor are dyed in the wool democrats, Clinton supporters, anti-Trumpers.

    http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/03/20/rel4c.-.trump.and.russia.pdf

    When it comes to impeachment, just one political party in favor of it means it won't work. That it might come across to other Americans as a very partisan political vendetta ala the Republican impeaching Bill Clinton back in the late 90's. That backfired on Republicans and impeachment of Trump stands the same chance of backfiring on the Democrats. Most independents, the less to non-partisan group, quite a lot of them not in neither the pro or anti Trump camps oppose impeachment.

    Impeachment today would be nothing more than a show trial with no chance of winning which due to only one party supporting it, not the other party or independents very well could add additional support from independents to Trump. Especially if they view the whole process as unwarranted.
     

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