Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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  1. chris155au

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    A viable fetus isn't inside a woman?
     
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    Well then I guess that I'm not most conservatives then. Is anyone in government saying this? Or are you talking about stupid keyboard warriors?
     
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    No, but it has to do with the ridiculous 'why don't you adopt' argument.

    Why? Should they not be able to get rid of the burden of raising a kid for 18 years and be able to ensure their financial security?
     
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    I mean, would you say that the government should continue to not allow for safe, regulated abortion?
     
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    Sure, but the actual birth didn't make things worse did it? It was continuing with the term that was the problem, right?
     
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    So then mentally ill women should be able to get an abortion after viability because they've changed their mind?

    Not one single woman in Canada has had an abortion after viability for non-health reasons?

    How do you know this person includes when the life of the woman is at risk? I see that you asked them, but I see that they haven't responded. I have also asked them.
     
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    Everyone CAN access doctors, it just shouldn't be a right and other than for abortion purposes, it isn't a right. I just thought about it - in the US, there is no right to healthcare, but there is a right to abortion! What an interesting country!

    Then the onus is also on those who want to force every mother to continue to take care of their child.

    Isn't adoption also the answer to an unwanted child?
     
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    Thankfully it won't depend on one single person.

    Who doesn't want to provide soap and toothpaste?
     
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    Do you think that abortion should be available?

    Not abortions, but doctors being forced to perform abortions.

    And what protections do you think should be granted to fetuses?
     
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    Then why point to the fact that it was a majority of men?
     
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    No.

    Men are the MOST unhappy!
     
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    Yes, it will ties their hands, but what would that have to do with rights?

    I am, why?
     
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    Then why did you say that "most women demand the right to choose?"
     
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    My point was that I agree with you that "women can call their fetus anything they choose to call it" but SO CAN ANYONE ELSE!
     
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    Sure, but a fetus doesn't start at conception. I should've said that when pro-life people say that life starts at conception, opponents often wrongly think that what they're saying is that A VIABLE HUMAN starts at conception. Do you believe that life starts at conception?
     
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    I take it that you now know that it DOES say that after I presented proof? I realise that you're at a disadvantage being in a different country, but then I'm in the same situation. It's often hard to keep up isn't it!
     
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    That sounds like you are FOR killing one day old babies ????? WTF! That's sick..
     
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    The topic is NOT "murdering kids" . Murdering children is illegal and rightly so. It has nothing to do with abortion and women's right to their own bodies.

    The point is that if Anti-Choicers want to FORCE women to give birth they should be willing to adopt. Especially people like you who think adoption is the answer to unwanted pregnancies.
     
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    GoodGAWD….what do you think happens at the end of the "term"....here , I'll explain. Continuing with the term ends in child birth.....didn't you know that !!!!!!
     
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    They can but in a discussion of abortion using the term "baby" to describe an embryo or fetus is quite dishonest, it's a ploy to get people to think something that looks like the Gerber baby is being aborted.
    It's an attempt to play on emotions because they haven't any facts on their side.
     
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    What does the law say and WHERE was your "proof" ???

    What are you claiming this law says??
     
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    Yes, it is a right to have medical care. It is a basic human need.




    Yes, there is.


    There is no right to abortion but there is a right to one's own body which makes abortion legal.



    No, that is no comparison at all especially since the topic is abortion.

    AND I never said I wanted to FORCE every mother to continue to take care of their child.

    Yes,
    IF the woman CHOOSES to gestate and give birth....it is an option not an obligation.
     
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    I'm not, but you are for killing them all the way until before birth.
     
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    Although that is not not a direct quote from the law there is nothing wrong with allowing late term abortions if the health of the woman is threatened..
     
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