Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

What does "IF" have to do with what we were discussing?

 

My definition is contained in what you posted. I guess we both agree on fetal rights then! It's just that you have a conflicting position on when it is a person, juggling the legal and moral arguments. Anyway, good luck with that!

 

"If" it was 50% women?

 

NO, as you've been told many, many times, it has protections...not rights...

 

Oh, another of your "Gee, I think I got a "gotcha" post, me clever boy !""


No, the onus to adopt is on those who want to force every pregnant woman to deliver a baby...the onus to adopt is on those who say adoption is the answer to an unwanted pregnancy.

 

There are no "pro-abortion"" people but if you're referring to Pro-Choice people please do point out where anyone said abortions should be forced ?

 

Renee said: ↑
They may not be able to afford the kid but I’m sure you don’t mind supplementing with your tax dollars

MILLIONS...do you have that much?







AND does it include


SOAP AND TOOTHPASTE ???? Seems Anti-Choicers don't even want to provide those basics to "precious lives"...

 

WHAT!

Repubs/Anti-Choicers don't want to provide "precious lives" with toothpaste or soap!!!...and ya gotta know they don't get luxuries like toilet paper if they're BORN....,.

 

She can't do her abortion alone can she?

 

So the Supreme Court did it JUST to please pro-lifers?

But if they wanted to, they should have the right to shouldn't they? It shouldn't matter about her mental state, her bodily rights should still apply shouldn't they?

Not by the millions, but what about by the hundreds?

What pro-lifers want to force women to die in childbirth?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
That is what I call personal responsibility. It's HER responsibility, no one else's.

Which is why there should be no laws against abortion.

It is on HER and HER alone,

That has nothing to do with it being her body and her choice.

We all have a right to bodily autonomy....but to conclude that means we can't access doctors is bizarre.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
The restriction on abortions after viability was allowed as a sop to Anti-Choicers.

Seems to be since it isn't needed at all.

YUP.

No, not by the hundreds either...nor by the 1,345 ths nor 250, 567 ths nor by the 1,000,034 ths….etc. etc.

The ones who do not want abortion for any reason....and, yes, there ar Anti-Choicers who don't want abortions for any reason.


Here's a quote from another thread by an Anti-Choicer:

"After 22 weeks, a child is viable outside the womb, to abort it is murder and should carry the penalty for such."

 

I'm not surprised that you refuse to honestly state your definition of "fetal rights."

Mine is that of the law of the land. After viability, the state can regulate or prohibit abortions unless they are "necessary, in appropriate medical judgement'', to preserve the life or health of the woman.

 

Why adopt when you have a child after birth?

 

And as for personhood?

 

I'm talking about adopting other people's unwanted kids.

 

Up to a certain point during gestation, she can.

 

My wife came very close to dying in childbirth. She has a genetic blood condition she didn't know about. Her doctor should have tested her before birth given what happened to her at around six months. If he had, she would have had a difficult choice to risk her life by continuing the pregnancy.

These sorts of circumstances are thankfully rare, but they do exist.

 

Right. Dad is always liable.

I don't think so, but I suppose you can find some examples.

 

Yeah, but what about after?

 

You're the one who claimed women could not perform their own abortions, I just pointed out you were wrong. Nothing more.

 

If every doctor refused to provide abortion, then how would abortion work?

 

Like it did in the old days, those with financial means would take a "vacation" to a place it was allowed, and poor women would turn to unlicensed abortionists. Ain't rocket science - we have 50 years plus of history showing this to be the case when anti-abortions laws were in effect. They don't work.

And these days, women can order abortive drugs over the internet and international travel is much easier - so anti-abortion laws would even be less effective.

 

Yes, how do you define "personhood"?

 

I got "deadly silence" from you when I explained.

""""That has nothing to do with it being her body and her choice.

We all have a right to bodily autonomy....but to conclude that means we can't access doctors is bizarre."""