Kushner's "deal of the century" falls flat on it's face

Yes, and the reason Israeli Jews are unwilling to go with a single state.

 

Israel wouldn't attack people this way.

 

So what. It still means no Jew can claim a specific peace of land. The way you're going, it does mean that all them white people need to be ethnically cleansed out of the United States. That's rather recent history compared to that 2000 years. You go start there, and than we talk.

 

You should stop propagandizing the forum.

 

Are you suggesting Israel would not have honored the second map below (UN Plan 1947) if the Arabs had accepted it?

 

They aren't going to get it back. There are literally millions of Israeli Jews who know no other home and have nowhere else to go. The same is true of Palestinians.

 

Pax Romana ... longer than the time from our Civil War to today. Forever is a very long time.

 

Our best friend? Better than the UK or Canada? Preposterous.

 

You're propagandizing again.

 

Hohhhh-Kayyyyy....

 

The Jews aren't going anywhere, but not because they were "pushed around for 2000 years." You're distorting history (to justify the Zionist movement and the subsequent immigration to Palestine?) when the central point in 2019 is that there are millions of Jews and millions of Arabs living in Israel today who know no other home and have nowhere else to go. It doesn't matter if 19th Century Zionism was justified or not, or Jews should have come to Palestine in large numbers, or Palestine didn't exist as a country in the Ottoman Empire, or... or...

 

What history am I "distorting." ??????
My own family was pushed out of Portugal simply because they were Jews.
This happened all over Europe for 2,000 years. For most of Jewish history
during this time it was the Muslims who treated them the best.

 

The Arabs colonized Palestine in the 7th Century. They planted a mosque on top
of the Jewish temple platform. At some point this mosque will be removed and the
Jews can build their Third Temple.

 

How about best friend of In the region?

 

On a per capita income of $4,300 (2014 est.) in the West Bank and Gaza?

https://www.cia.gov/library/Publications/the-world-factbook/geos/we.html​

Yeah, sure...

 

By far.

 

Do you require all the world nations to accept the maps from 70 years ago ?
Do you require Turkey to leave Cyprus ?
Do you require Germany to surrender half its country to Russia ?
Do you want Rhodesia back ? France to hold half of Africa ?
Do you require China to leave Mongolia ?
and the list goes on and on 1000 times the size of the state of Israel.
So why pick on the Jews ?

 

Zionists were not entitled to Palestine because they were "pushed around" in Europe (in particular). There were fewer Jews in Palestine for centuries than fans at an NBA game.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-and-non-jewish-population-of-israel-palestine-1517-present​

Jews were no more entitled to Palestine than Native Americans are entitled to New York City.

Yes, and one of the reasons Jews started looking around for a refuge. Herzl even preferred Argentina over Palestine as a potential safe haven. Jews aren't leaving Israel because they want a refuge for Jews attacked in other countries. Israel is their homeland now. Jerusalem is their chosen capital. The idea Jews (or Muslims) must have Jerusalem is nonsense.

Suggesting what? Jews and Muslims can potentially get along? In a Jewish state?

 

And religious types wonder why a lot of people see them as a pain in the arse?

 

Irrelevant and nonresponsive. I submit Israel would have honored the UN plan.

Why ask an obviously absurd question?

 

Except them Arabs did not kick out the Jews, or destroyed the temple.

That would be the day that all Jews have to fear a lot more for their lives all over the world. The crap the Israeli Jews do who are back up by the west, like ethnic cleansing, is already having it's repercussions for the Jews world wide.

 

That's true, and worth noting.
Interestingly, the Iberian Jews (where some of my ancestors come from) were treated
reasonably well by the Muslims. And Jews moving into northern Europe prospered due
to their trading links with the Muslims.
But where it went wrong for the relationship was Jews BUYING up what was now Arab
land in Palestine and forming colonies. Thus it was a claim to land that two ancient people
saw as their own which started the conflict. My issue with the Palestinians (or Arabs else
where who exploited the situation) is they could have happily shared the land - but they
refused.

 

Jews fled en mass to the Ottoman empire, fleeing for the inquisition.

It's a fact that the Jews ethnically cleansed +700.000 Arabs and did not pay a thing for it.

They can share, when they give back what they stole. The Jews are refusing and demand their ethnic cleansing way must pay off. And they do not want to give back what they stole, since that would make them a minority in Israel. And the entire idea was, to be a majority. That's why they went thieving around in the first place.

 

Jews buying up land in Palestine ca 1900 became the catalyst for strife.
There were no Jewish armies slaughtering Arabs - just a few wannabe
farmers establishing little collectives.
Remember, until the brutalization of war, most Israeli Jews were left-wing,
socialist, internationalist, progressive, liberals who held to high ideals of
living in harmony with their Christian and Arab majority neighbors.
The issue for Arabs was the number of Jews arriving. It's the same with
any local populations, actually - you don't want to be swamped.

Today there's close to two million Arabs living in Israel proper. They enjoy
a high standard of living and have a freedom their Fatah and Hamas controlled
relatives can only dream of. And hundreds of thousands of these poorer Arabs
come to Israel each year for medical treatment where they are treated ethically,
professionally and like human beings.

And all over Israel you will road signs in Hebrew and Arabic.
No sir, there was no "ethnic cleansing" on the scale you are led to believe. Only
the Arab nations did that.

 

You asked about the Israeli Arabs.
They live in the best and most safe place for Arabs in the world.
Look what's happening in 21 Arab muslim countries .. Blahhhhhhhh​