Kushner's "deal of the century" falls flat on it's face

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    They can not trace their lineage back 2000 years, buddy.

    That's just your racist perception. The Jews ethnically cleansed the Arabs from their lands. They can trace that back, since plenty are still alive who have been ethnically cleansed. Or otherwise it's just 1 generation ago. Do note, Jews constantly sue people for what was stolen from their relatives in WWII. I don't see why Arabs may not sue Jews and getting their properties back.
     
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    You are right - it's more like 4,000 years.
    Jews are a branch of the Semite line.
    Some Jews are called "Jews" because they converted to Judaism,
    but most are Jews because of their DNA. I consider myself a Gentile
    but I found I have Sephardi DNA through English ancestors. We figured
    we were part of the diaspora from Israel first Century and were pushed
    out of Portugal 15 Century.

    Many Jews with the Cohen name trace their line back to the ancient
    Levite family (think Levitical priests, book of Leviticus) This line goes
    back to Aaron, Moses brother.
     
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    Interesting you say that because many Jews had that experience of "ethnic cleansing"
    in recent generations too. And it wasn't due to war either.
    Watch this space as Israel launches legal action against some of these countries.
    Let's be frank. The Jews are not going anywhere - they had been pushed around for
    2000 years; Israel is their homeland; Jerusalem is their capital and the temple mount
    is their ancient cultic center.
     
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    SIX HUNDRED ROCKETS. Think about it. You hear from the "international press" that
    Hamas is starving - yet they have their own army. They aren't big on industries and
    agriculture and diplomacy (they even destroyed all the green houses Israel left behind
    for them when they vacated Gaza.)
    What was the purpose of these 600 rockets, or the 130,000 rockets Hezbollah has
    aimed at Israel? To kill. It's no fault of the Arabs that these rockets mostly miss their
    targets - but they do try, even praying to Allah, their god of war, that the rockets will
    kill Jews.
    Israeli rockets mostly get-their-man, often a man on a bike or in a car or hiding inside
    a school building. One guy, "the engineer" was killed with explosive packed into a
    cell-phone he was using. The Jews got him - he got the Jews by blowing up buses.

    There's a standard for the Jews, and there's a standard for the Arabs.
     
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    Never happened. About the entire Arab peninsula banned Jews from leaving, but left anyways. When due to foreign pressure the ban was lifted, it was Israel who paid them to leave the country. I do understand that Jews call this "ethnic cleansing",... because they used this as an excuse why it's morally ok to ethnically cleanse other people who had nothing to do with that,... based on ethnic background of their victims and their utterly racist opinion,... it makes perfect sense to them.
     
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    So what. They can not trace back to a specific property 2000 years ago. And there is no such thing as claiming a nation or having some right to on land based only on your ethnic background.
     
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    The greenhouses were looted for their materials needed elsewhere. Israel bans all kinds of stuff. Back in the day, even crayons and books were banned. It's just a way of the Jew to collectively punish the Palestinians. It's illegal to do so.

    They want their stuff back form the Jews who stole their real estate.

    Jews use massive bombs to just kill loads of civilians. The amount of children those Jews kill is immense. They refuse any kind of independent inquiry, while the condemnations from the world are utterly massive. Says it all. The Israeli-Jewish population is simply utterly racist in general. Half it's Jew population supports the idea to ethnically cleanse all Arabs. And that is only the Jew population that is open about it. Them same racists join the IDF to massacre around.
     
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    If Trump wins another term, NATO will be gone, he'll withdraw us from NATO. During last year's NATO conference, he announced the US would “go it alone” if European states failed to boost their spending to at least 2% of GDP by January. Simply by threatening to withdraw, he has plunged this alliance into chaos.

    Leaving NATO would be a seismic step, previously unthinkable, that would shake up a western alliance that has endured for more than 70 years. It would also be a boon to Russia and its leader, Vladimir Putin. Even discussing the idea of leaving NATO — let alone actually doing so — would be the gift of the century for Putin. US strengths are in our alliances in Europe. Things could change pretty rapidly for the US.
     
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    "Says it all." Yes and no, mostly.... no.
    Hamas sent kids to the security fence where they were met with tear gas and rubber bullets.
    It's theater.
    Behind them snipers shot two IDF members with lead bullets.
    What reaches the news is the visual - the kids. There were no videos of snipers.
    It was said during WWII that images of dead American marines washing up on Pacific Island
    beaches could have ended America's participation in the war (you know, racist war, ethnic
    cleansing, rah rah rah..)
    The "image" is as crucial to a war as the bomb, the bullet and the divisions.
     
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    We all know the Jews used snipers to kill around. They targeted children, health workers and journalists. And subsequently the Jews were condemned again for their criminal behavior. By the 1000's. And here you complain that 2 soldiers of the IDF for shot. The insanity.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...targeted-children-health-workers-journalists/
     
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    And this is the same UN which claimed that the Jews have no historic connection to the temple?
    I bet there ARE IDF snipers. But killing a child or a disabled person (what are such doing at the
    conflict zone?) is counterproductive. Who benefits from the killing of a child in such an engagement?
    Hamas. Who loses with such a death? Israel. You figure it out. The children are exploited.
    Killing of a journalist? What advantage does Israel gain from the foreign media if it loses good will?
     
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    There are too many lies, distortions, and crass ignorance in posts of anti-Zionists, with the "but but but rockets from Gaza don't kill people" crown jewel on top.

    Rockets from Gaza kill people - both in Israel and in Gaza (misfired). The reason why few Israelis have been killed by rockets is that Israeli governments, unlike Hamas, care about civilian lives. Israelis have bomb shelters everywhere - apartment buildings, malls, kindergartens, schools, near playgrounds, banks, public buildings. Newer buildings have safe rooms - private bomb shelters - in each apartment. The IDF Home Front Command periodically issue - or refresh existing - instructions for civilians on how to protect themselves from rockets.

    Hamas, on the other hand, chose to build hundreds of tunnels worth hundreds of millions of dollars - while whining about starving and not having building materials for houses - for the sole purpose of attacking Israel. Defense of civilians didn't make it on their to do list.
     
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    More doom and gloom, LoL? Relax, pal.

    America be just fine! :hug:
     
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    Yep, yep, we know all about them jew sniper tanks :hiding:
     
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    If you ask Arabs this question, "The Jews have the nuclear bomb. Why don't they use it on you guys?"
    their answer invariably is, "They are afraid to."

    Meaning - Arabs cannot understand why Jews show such restraint in dealing with them. And it's probably
    because Israelis are Westernized, Liberal, left-wing (maybe not now, but 1900-1940's) and genuinely want to
    get on with their Arab neighbors more than Arabs want to get on with them.
     
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    The problem with the breakup of NATO and the encroachment of Russia is that
    America could be drawn into another world war like it was in WWI and WWII.
    The lesson learned from those wars was the need for American engagement.
     
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    What was unfair and dishonest about the embassy move?
     
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    Jews are sniping children, disabled, and health workers. Who benefits from it? Israel! Because they get away with it, and keep their thieving hands on ethnically cleansed real estate. You see it back in that joke of a deal that Kushner made. The guy is Jewish and has been raised by the concept that even genocide is justified to thieve the land of Israel from others. It's part of their religion.
     
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    So some Jew (IDF personnel actually, could be anyone) kills a child - let's think about that.

    Did the IDF kill the child to get their property?
    Why are children facing IDF forces for?
    What parents are allowing their children to get killed by the IDF?
    Do Gazan mothers say "Go to the barrier and if you get killed the Jews will get our home" ????
    Shouldn't Gazan children be afraid to get killed?
    How many children are killed each week?
    How come the million or so Palestinian children inside Israel don't get killed?
    How can something like 100,000 Palestinian and Gazan kids go to Israel each year? Aren't they afraid?
    How come a Gazan child killed during the fighting is given star treatment on international media, but 600 rockets fired at Israel get little coverage?
    Did Hamas think that some children might die if they fire 600 rockets at Israeli schools, houses and hospitals?
    Why do Israelis protect their own children with bomb shelters, fire drills, sirens and training - but Hamas doesn't?
    Why does Hamas fire rockets from hospitals and schools? Aren't they concerned for their own children?
    Why are Palestinian children encouraged to fight Israelis and their parents are rewarded if a child dies (not home lost)
    Why does Hamas pay children to dig death tunnels for them?
    Why does Hamas pressure young girls to get married and produce more kids to "fight the Jews" ?
    Why can't Hamas do a deal with Israel and let Gazan kids grow up peacefully?
    Why does Israel treat so many Gazan children in their hospitals?
     
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    I sourced that they have, and health workers and the disabled.
    As for your questions,.. you go find them answers and make an argument or something.
     
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    In the days around the Nato summit meeting last summer, Trump told his top national security officials he did not see the point of the western military alliance, which he presented as a drain on the US. It's just a fact, that Trump wants the US out of Nato. Withdrawing the US from Nato is the mother of all insane ideas. Don't kid yourself, he wants to.

    The immediate consequence would be emboldening Putin to do what he wants in continental Europe specifically because of the Kremlin’s aggression towards Ukraine and Georgia, two non-Nato states. Russia could then treat European member states similarly. Nato has historically played a major role in an unprecedented era of relative peace between European states since the end of the WW2. If Trump removed the United States from Nato, the dominoes could start to tumble. A divided, internally conflicted Europe with the United States on the sidelines could lead to catastrophic humanitarian, security, and economic consequences.
     
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    Who did Kushner peg to pay the Palestinians all those billions? Certainly not the American taxpayers. The US government wouldn't volunteer up our money to solve someone's problems.
     
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    That too be fine with me. NATO countries want America to continue with protecting them against. Russia, they should contribute to a joint defense accordingly.

    No? Adios, amigos.
     
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    Should America contribute to NATO more than the other members? Percentage- wise?
     
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    Bingo! :applause:

    Except Israel is not afraid to use nukes and will use them when left out of options. And Arabs know of Israel determination.

    Nuke is the weapon of defense, of a last resort.
     

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