The electoral college needs to go, its broken and only serves to disenfranchise voters

Again you got the fruit that fell off the tree and if it did get that far you got the SCOTUS and the Congress to get around let alone the Constitution. Do you REALLY think the state of California would want it's votes going to Trump? This is a shortsighted and vindictive attempt to get around our system of government.

 

He is running for a non-existent popular vote.

 

It cannot enter into a compact with other states unless the Congress gives it's approval.

 

Non seq.

A state cannot enter into a compact or agreement with another state w/o consent of Congress.
This limitation modifies whatever other powers a state might have.
Thus:
NPVC violates the constitution.

 

Who then take exception to you calling out their hypocrisy, while they call out yours (even if they have to make it up).

 

They can't effect their own election at all only those of national office holders and only for the house of representatives. And why shouldn't they it is there state not yours.

 

Their issues come from there own policies. Factoring cost of living they have the highest poverty rate in the US. Housing prices due to open space restrictions are ridiculously high. Gasoline in ridiculously high. State income tax rates are ridiculously high. Progressive politicians have ruined this state. I know, I live here.

 

If you say so

I suppose we could go all day long proving you wrong, but I need to make hot wing sauce and need a can of beer. So while I'm doing that, you search the HELL out of your sources and convince me that the U.S. in not a nation

 

No where did that indicate a nation is about unequal voting metrics. But ok.

We would remain a nation even if we went to a NPV

 

Absolutely not true

Everyone also used to have slaves — well the ones that could afford them at least, didn’t make the system fine.

 

100% fine with a national popular vote. If trump wins the he wins. What I am not fine with is some people votes being worth a third of other people’s votes only because of the geographical region they live in.

When is the last time republicans won a national vote?

 

Just because it doesn’t currently count doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

 

Not really

The. All they have to do is do it independently and without the consent or discussion with another state. Right?

 

Fortunately, that's not what happens.
Your vote counts exactly as much as every other person who participates in the election in which you voted.

No one has ever won a national vote, as all elections are state elections.

 

Ever lived in Alabama, most of it feels like a third world nation.

Seems when either party have unbridled control the state falters.

 

Politicians should not be allowed to influence the results of an election to benefit their party. It’s absolutely disgusting that you see nothing wrong with it.

 

Yes, really.
Feel free to demonstrate the necessary relationship between the two concepts you mention, and how the former logically follows form the latter.

True, but then it's not the NPVC.
The NPVC violates the constitution.

 

Someones vote in Wyoming has 4x the voting power as someone in New York.

Numerous presidents have won the popular vote including Obama twice, Bush 2 once, Clinton twice. Trump zero

 

It's not a compact no states are named

 

Someone voting in WY is not voting in the same election as someone voting in NY, so your comparison is invalid and unsound.

No one has ever won a "national vote" - your term - as there is no "national vote" - all elections are state elections.

 

You better tell the people who created it, as -they- call it a compact.

The National Popular Vote interstate compact would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes across all 50 states and the District of Columbia. The bill ensures that every vote, in every state, will matter in every presidential election. The bill is a constitutionally conservative, state-based approach that preserves the Electoral College, state control of elections, and the power of the states to control how the President is elected.
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

 

Yes, most of the states was for Trump. Thar's why our founding fathers did what they did. To allow the whole country have a say in who makes our laws, not a few big states. Think about it, would you want to join the union if you were a small state and knew you would never have a say in who gets elected or laws being made? I wouldn't.

I believe in fairness and so did our forefathers, That is why they made us a republic instead of a democracy.


Seems the biggest blue I see on that map is in vacant places in the West like New Mexico.

 

All you're saying is that certain people, particularly the right, really want to eliminate the EC, but decided to learn how the rules of how the game was played and the won.

Again, it does not matter if you hate the EC. If you choose to operate with this system, you need to take what comes with participating or change it.

Arguing who hates the EC more is a fruitless discussion that isn't worth having.

I don't understand how that works in your mind.The people voted for their state electors and their state electors voted for the president the people wanted. The people got what they wanted.

 

The voters in WI, PA, and MI now know they made the right choice. If you think any of the clowns you have running in 2020 have a shot, you are sorely mistaken. I simply cannot believe you folks are still whining about Hillary's hilarious loss years after the fact. It makes me smile...

 

A better idea would be to dissolve the union entirely. It's clearly not working.