The electoral college needs to go, its broken and only serves to disenfranchise voters

I am completely aware of this. I just don’t agree with it

 

Ever lived there? I have

There are places where raw sewage stands during heavy rains.

 

That’s why I used the word popular and not the word national. You putting things in “quotations” does not make it reflect what anyone said.

 

They believed in fairness so much they only allowed white male landowners the ability to vote.

That’s completely “fair”, isn’t it?

 

Everyone that voted but didn’t vote for him. The majority of the country.

 

I don't think I need to explain why that doesn't make sense. Majority of the country didn't vote for Hilary, either... This is why some nations don't elect their leaders using a plurality system.

But I'll grant you, for the sake of your argument, there were a lot of people who voted for other candidates. If we look at the votes purely on a left/right dichotomy, Clinton still lost the election.

Clinton: 65,844,969
Trump: 62,979,984
Johnson: 4,492,919
Stein: 1,449,370

People often claim that a vote for third party is just a vote for the opposition. Well, assuming that this is true, Clinton would have just received 1.4 million additional votes while Trump would have gained 4.4 additional votes.

 

You are talking about LA. They clean the human feces off the streets by hiding it into the storm drain system where it ends up in the ocean. LA now has 12 million rats. What could go wrong. San Francisco, Sacramento, and San Diego have the same problems. Our moron governor Newsome travels to El Salvador instead of solving the problem in the state he’s responsible for. Thanks progressive democrats.

 

I’ve lived in Louisiana and never noticed that, or did you mean Los Angeles? Los Angeles is filthy in spots but not entire towns like Alabama. Never been to Sacramento but I have lived in the Bay Area as well as San Diego and San Jose — none compare to the negligence in parts of Alabama, at least they have the excuse of over population, Alabama just has ‘conservatism’ to blame.

 

That’s funny. They now have cases of typhus in LA and public health officials are concerned about the plague. No reporting of this by ace reporters at CNN/NBC ???

What towns in Alabama compare to the liberal disasters of California ???

 

You seem to really be struggling with the fact that I am talking about America as a whole and not just Clinton voters, I don’t know how to get it to your level of understanding.

Oh, new metrics to try to deflect away from what has been discussed.

As someone that voted for Johnson because the two big candidates were horrible, your idea that all of his voters would have went to trump is quite frankly absurd and calls into question your entire premise.
Libertarian does not mean neocon.
Independent does not mean neocon.
Neocon means neocon.

But I do think it’s adorable y’all think trump represents the majority of America when he lost to someone as horrible as HRC. Just imagine if the DNC would have put a viable candidate up.

 

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article...a-year-ago-the-state-has-done-little-about-it
https://www.al.com/news/2019/04/how...as-black-belt-ua-team-trying-to-find-out.html

One is caused by an overload of population density the other by corruption and neglect.

 

Trump represents the interests of Americans. Liberals represent the interests of those here illegally.

 

Are you kidding - overload of population. That’s hilarious. Thanks Governor Newsome and the rest of the morons governing California.

 

Constant laughter is a sign of an emotional instability known as pseudobulbar affect, maybe look into it..

Are you really arguing Los Angeles doesn’t have an over population issue?

 

False and false.

Way to respond to a single point...

 

But you're not "talking" about anything meaningful. The same metrics can be applied to everything and everyone.

Most Americans voted against [Insert Candidate Here]. That's not a meaningful standard of ascertaining the sentiment of voters...

Oh, new metrics to try to deflect away from what has been discussed.

Irrelevant. I'm only using a left/right dichotomy to assertion which which who would have received the most votes based on alignment.

There are easier ways of erecting strawmen...

 

Over half the country (as per trumps approval numbers) disagree it is not a meaningful standard

Except libertarian is not a right dichotomy.

Fact, not strawman

 

Why? In most respects that is there job.

 

I suggest you read post # 212, where you asked:
When is the last time republicans won a national vote?

I responded, in 215:
No one has ever won a national vote, as all elections are state elections.

You then tried to move the goal post, when you responded in post 219:
Numerous presidents have won the popular vote

Therefore, putting things in quotations reflects exactly what you said.
Did you forget what you posted?

So, back to the points put to you, which you tried to side-step:
- Someone voting in WY is not voting in the same election as someone voting in NY, so your comparison is invalid and unsound.
- No one has ever won a "national vote" - your term - as there is no "national vote" - all elections are state elections.
- What governmental entity, empowered by law, certified the 'popular vote'?

 

Its necessary to prevent those States with high populations from being the only population to elect a President.

 

One vote did equal one vote, in which state did it not?

 

Well tell me if your trying to put together a new nation made up of a number of states and you tell them that we'll allow you to vote but it won't mean anything because only the bigger states that have a bigger population is going to elect the people who is going to make the laws your going to have to obey. Would you join that group? Why in the world would anyone join an organization when you have no say in the laws and conduct that will control you?

 

Ok fine, I will rephrase. How long as it been since republicans won a presidential vote that is representative of the population of the citizens of America?

 

I accept your admission of willful error.

So, back to the points put to you, which you tried to side-step:
- Someone voting in WY is not voting in the same election as someone voting in NY, so your comparison is invalid and unsound.
- No one has ever won a "national vote" - your term - as there is no "national vote" - all elections are state elections.
- What governmental entity, empowered by law, certified the 'popular vote'?

 

You mean like the largest, most productive states are being forced to endure now?
Good question, why would they?

Much has changed in 250 years — I’m not surprised some of you have trouble acknowledging that.