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Colorado Christian cakeshop sued a third time for discrimination.

Discussion in 'United States' started by chris155au, Jun 12, 2019.

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, they investigate Civil Rights violations.
     
    Professor Peabody, Jul 12, 2019
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    Giftedone, Jul 12, 2019
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    One of us, probably
     
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    How does a gay wedding cake differ from a straight wedding cake?
     
    cd8ed, Jul 12, 2019
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  5. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unless you live to be 250 years old, you'll be right along with me.
     
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    I highly doubt it will take that long, discrimination against entire groups is extremely unpopular especially among my generation and younger. The only two major groups that currently support it are evangelicals (which is ironic seeing that they are the most protected class in America) and the ‘silent generation’ (not silent enough apparently).

    Both groups have a rapidly deteriorating base but are making enough fuss that it will be addressed.
    Their insanity are the main reasons marriage equality happened at such a rapid pace.
     
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  7. chris155au

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    So you think it could happen in the future?
     
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    Unconstitutional conduct on the side of the CCRC, SCOTUS never said the type of discrimination against the gay couple was legal only that the baker was not treated fairly and equally due to his religious make-belief. The next case will likely follow legal requirements much closer at which point SCOTUS will either impose federal regulation on a state overriding state laws (something the right is sporadically against depending on the topic) at which point constructional amendments will be pushed forward with or SCOTUS will let the CCRC ruling stand at which point evangelicals will scream victim like they have been doing over the past few decades when they don’t get their normal special treatment.
     
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    A third time? People don't learn, do they?

    Quite frankly this is becoming more of a harassment campaign from the looks of it.

    It's a private business, and as such should be allowed to do business with let alone refuse business with whomever they please.

    Is it a good idea to discriminate however? No, it sure as hell ain't.
    But the guy is within his rights as a Federal judge ruled.
     
    Yakamaru, Jul 13, 2019
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    The icing is sweeter
     
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    What do you mean "make-belief?"

    What CCRC ruling?
     
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    Well within what rights?
     
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    Legal rights. What rights do you think I was otherwise referring to?
     
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    Yeah what legal rights?
     
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    Exactly - (bold). In the discussion I was having the poster posted some dictionary definition of discrimination - which defined the word in a way that included something completely unrelated to the legal definition - having discriminating taste for example.

    I brought up the example that someone preferring blonds to brunettes is not discrimination - as per the legal definition. Rather than show some understanding of what was being explained - the poster went into la la land saying "did you not hear about the ruling in Colorado" and so on.

    This is a typical denial/ thought avoidance/ thought stopping technique of the indoctrinated. Thinking the "bad though" triggers the fear response (that they may be being seduced down the path towards most horrible thing the mind can imagine - eternal torture in the afterlife) - and so they will avoid the "bad thought" at all costs.
     
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    Fantasy, Myth, Imaginary fairy in the sky from the Bronze Age.
     
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    How do you know that it is all of that?
     
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    How do you know it's not? As much Faith as you have in your Faith I have Faith in my lack of any. Be that as it may if my god would send me to everlasting perdition because I made a cake for those he disagreed with then he could send me there as well, I would definitely find an eternity of worshipping such a cruel and tyrannical deity to be worse than any hell even an omnipotent entitly could likely devise
     
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    Who cares. A private business has the legal right to refuse entry or service to anyone, at any time, for any reason.
     
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    No it isn't. It's only against the law to TELL the person why you're refusing to serve them, if it's one of the aforementioned reasons. And you are not legally obliged to tell someone why you're refusing service.
     
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    Your two statements are in direct conflict.
    It if is legal to deny service “for any reason” but to be legal you must lie as to the reason then it is not legal to deny them service for that reason.

    You cannot legally deny a Jewish person service because their religion but you can lie and make up another reason to discriminate against them. Doesn’t make it anymore legal.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...discrimination.557207/page-26#post-1070762082
     
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    Did Jack say that his god would send him to everlasting perdition if he baked the cake?
     
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    Are you saying that Jack didn't tell them why he couldn't serve them?
     
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